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Messer eV

    no one writes first or some shit ?

    big bozo

      lulululul

      TaxSlayer516

        FIRST!

        Kagitoo

          About Bloodseeker:

          "When he was picked [...] it was because of his insane damage output.[...] He gets easily bursted, thus often needs a BKB, but also deals only little damage in return."

          What?

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          Moon Moon

            He WAS picked because of his insane damage output. Now, a couple of patches later, he deals less damage. Easy. Remember that idiotic bloodseeker patch maybe 2 years ago. It was hell.

            Xeno

              He still deals 1k right click damage without crits....

              cum

                Visage can't teamfight ROFL

                dlebensgefahr

                  So wierd these heroes have not been picked. They are all unique. I was expecting shit like troll, sniper and techies to be ignored. For me, its just an occasion. This five are definetly viable.

                  Fury.

                    They need to bring back bloodseeker's old spell

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                      el muchacho de los ojos t...

                        Whoever wrote this, should have mentioned that a big reason why Lina and Lesh suck is that their burst damage is chunked by a 225gold item, Infused Raindrops.

                        Lilywhite

                          "Visage is also by no means a teamfighter. He can push and gank, but in teamfights the hero falls flat." this guy who wrote this has no idea about how visage works. beast in early figths and pick up roa and hes still viable in midgame figths

                          J_A_P_G

                            Everyday until Techies is buffed.

                            Leodking

                              lina can be played in many roles, plus can shutdown ezly cores on early, so how come she is not flexible?

                              MadKraken

                                @Peterpan spoke the truth, all of the burst damage from lina or lesh in the early-midgame can be countered by a simple raindrop for 225.

                                TeraByte

                                  i told you lesh needed buff...

                                  aikyu3 SuBi ♪

                                    ^ who cares about you and you told who? idiot kid with 2k mmr normal skill LOL

                                    cornflake

                                      who used arc warden??

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                                        arc warden isn't in captains mode. so no one could use him. if you've only played 100 games of dota you shouldn't be talking about what heroes need buffs or nerfs. the guy who wrote this contradicts himself in the same paragraph. in 6.84 bs's main advantage was the movement speed not dmg.

                                        Hello L.A.

                                          I think bloodseeker could come back as a magical dmg core,just like mirana. His dmg with e-blade and Dagon is insane plus his aoe pure dmg spell, he is still able to kill most heroes in one second.

                                          BlurryBob

                                            Make Bloodseeker's 1st toggle, add another single target spell to counter linken's and he should be fine

                                            Et34nalK3nshin

                                              And what about Doom? He wasn't picked much, was he?

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                                                doom was picked but he performed poorly. giving bloodseeker his old silence back to break linkes would probably be too much. even in 6.84 the hero wasn't competitively viable. just because he was picked a few times doesn't mean he won games. in ti5 i'm pretty sure he had a winrate in the high 30s. the big problem with bloodseeker was that about five minutes into your laning phase everyone on your team would be between half and 3/4 heatlh. bs got speed from even 3/4 heatlh and he got it from everyone on your team. his dmg was upped, but that wasn't what really made him a problem. what made him a problem was that if you're whole team was not LITERALLY AT FULL HEALTH he was running at something like 622 movespeed. if anyone has every played liycan they realize just how powerful it is to run faster than the speed cap. there could be a support at the enemy safelane and you could run from your jungle down to the enemy safelane, dive the support who was at 3/4 health (didn't show up on minimap because of thirst but you knew where it was because of your teammate's vision) kill the support, and run away at 650 movespeeed. there was basically nothing anyone could do to stop you because you were just too freaking fast.

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                                                Magic

                                                  you could've said it much faster

                                                  these hero are hero that revolve into bursting one hero/saving on hero and it's no longer affordable to lose too much cooldown just for one pickoff. they were core in the 6.83 meta where the comeback mechanic was so strong that just getting one key player pickoff would be a huge swing in net worth

                                                  Sarllo

                                                    @dlebensgefahr i agree, i wonder why they didnt pick bloodseeker, he works PERFECT in adition of faceless void (very contested this TI6), and he is a good counter for heroes like slark and timbersaw (very contested too), but noo, professional picks PROFESSIONAL pick like troll and ogre.. seriously, no wonder why

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                                                    yt@serbiangamer

                                                      How many times I need to say
                                                      -Go jungle Bloodseeker with Iron Talon
                                                      -Farm Poor Man Shield and Boots first
                                                      -Transition into Aghanim Scepter (should get it in 10-15 minutes if everything is going ok and you get some ganks of)
                                                      -Start maning up with your team and use double Rupture (should be level 2 at that point)
                                                      -Go for Guardian Greeves (yes thats right, GG boots, remove silences and slows and negative buffs, helps your team, passive regen aura, always have mana, its totaly legit, I dont know why people dont realise that)
                                                      -After that, go for Linkens Sphere
                                                      -Throw some BKB for finish the game
                                                      -Attack speed or MKB is item of choice for late game, Mjollnir is also good.

                                                      Have fun stomping pubs!

                                                      CUIDADO BILLETERAS LLEGO ...

                                                        wheres sniper?

                                                        AW

                                                          remember, wings's captain said they have bloodseeker and treant strat.

                                                          glimpse of us

                                                            The main problem of Visage is that he can't stun with birds, recall them and instantly stun then. It was the main feature of the hero. A lot of Visage players said that, for example, Lil, who played this hero for a very long time.

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                                                              Wolfmother

                                                                Which team picked Omni?!?

                                                                Speechless

                                                                  please nerf the timbersaw

                                                                  EL "清冲" RECOBA

                                                                    sniper is totally uselees right now,very easy to take down and need expensive items

                                                                    K A L E B O Y S

                                                                      Navi picked Omni once (Artstyle)

                                                                      Believe in kuru~kuru supr...

                                                                        i think in 23 August we will see very interesting changes. And these heroes will be stronger, but who knows(

                                                                        cesaugo

                                                                          buff techies Bruno pls

                                                                          × Aroma (Misery)

                                                                            Best comments ever. Really.
                                                                            *sarcasm intensifies*
                                                                            Edit: i meant the whole comment section. Really.

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                                                                            Twoots

                                                                              Wkwkwk baka's

                                                                              Naked

                                                                                they didn't even bother to mention sniper, troll and techies. to be honest I just think it was a strange coincidence visage, lina and leshrac were not picked.

                                                                                He

                                                                                  The point about lesh being squishtown is valid but lina? She has a movespeed buff that triggers on cast for poot's sake. All you have to do is get an aether lens+boots+wind lace and you become a ghost that stuns and nukes on the fringe of the action. I was honestly so surprised she wasn't picked up since she both counters and works really well with lots of meta lockdown heroes such as void, beastmaster, invoker, shadow demon, and elder titan. I guess it's all up to the captain's comfort zone and confidence in picks.

                                                                                  Donkey Pink Car

                                                                                    I just feel sick whenever I see Mirana nowadays. In every friggin' game :/

                                                                                    Work Work

                                                                                      How does Lina counter anyone in the current meta

                                                                                      [GM] yahya993

                                                                                        a lot of guys here don`t understand that not the heroes that need buff/nerf ... but the items
                                                                                        rain drop and no one can burst you with magic ,,, < the item that increases range > the stats on this item are crazy even meepo get it

                                                                                        xnonim

                                                                                          my mom need to know about it

                                                                                          Nikolas Tesla

                                                                                            PATCH 6.89 IDEA LESHRAC
                                                                                            Basic
                                                                                            Base Armor Increase 3.29 to 4
                                                                                            (str) Strenght gain per level increased 16 + 1.5 to 16 + 1.9
                                                                                            Skills
                                                                                            Diabolic Edict : affects only heroes.
                                                                                            Lightning Storm : damage rescaled : 70/115/150/220.
                                                                                            Pulse Nova add cooldown 2 seconds.
                                                                                            Pulse Nova Damage Radius: 450 to 500.
                                                                                            Pulse Nova It can be activated being stunned.
                                                                                            (aghanimsscepter) Pulse Nova Aghanim's Scepter reworked : After two explosions three explosions occur every 0.5 seconds and the damage rescaled with 140/180/200.

                                                                                            Shou

                                                                                              wtf by making edict not do dmg to towers u killed the one thing lesh can do. I just go meme lesh build and max edict, as soon as enemy mid leaves lane just take his tower. I'm not too experienced right, but it worked for me.