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1k games are harder than 3k. in General Discussion
SirIronSights

    I was hoping this thread would still exist.
    I ain't dissapointed
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    SayingPleaseHelps

      Ain't disappointed? The passion is gone from here. OP knows they were wrong and lost a;; bite? some other regular posters want to see this thing gone and even for me there are no more marks.

      SirIronSights

        ^this shit is comic gold
        So just because the passion is gone, the thread is dead?
        Your opinion.
        Not facts
        I wasn't dissapointed, because it still exists.
        You 2 blind to see that, and start murmuring randomly about passion.
        I'm pretty sure you missed the point.
        Scrap that I'm 100% sure.
        Even for you there are no more marks? Do you think your better? Cuz that ain't the case.
        Opezdal is the best.
        Can't beat opezdal
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        死の恐怖 Haseo

          Omg this is so true! In 1k bracket i always get jebaited by my own teammate expecting them to react quick and wisely!!!1!!!11!!!!

          SirIronSights

            ^your overestimating 1kmmrs,
            We have the brain output of a supercomputer, but the reflexes of a toad with polio.

            CAESAR KING OF APES

              In 1k you should NEVER play with your team. Farm, farm, farm, farm, farm, farm, farm, and start fighting when you can literally 1v9. In 2k+ you can start playing with you team more.

              CAESAR KING OF APES

                People who say 1k is harder than 3k are actually not that far from truth. In 1k you can't predict anything, can't rely on anyone. However, when you change your mindset, and treat it as 1v9 game (let noobs die, just farm), games become ez if you really are a 3k+ player. When I lost in 1k, it was mostly because I tried to help teammates instead farming. That's the mindset you shouldn't have in 1k if you want to climb.

                SayingPleaseHelps

                  @SirIronSights
                  Well, let's test your markability now, shall we? Are you willing to make a ludicrous statement on par with OP's OP to prove you qualify?

                  I wasn't dissapointed, because it still exists.
                  That's quite a low bar, my dude. Or were you expecting in to get deleted cause of all the toothless jabs being thrown around here every 10 pages or so?

                  aLeGrim

                    True, I saw Miracle- once at 1k mmr smurf account. He went to 452 mmr. He said that 1k it's pretty impossibile and that he is happy to be 11k

                    SirIronSights

                      @sayingpleasehelps
                      No, I can give you a ludicrous statement though. I don't qualify.
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                      Am I expecting this thread to get deleted cuz of all the toothless jabs?
                      Ofcourse I am buddy. Cmon you do realise how big the chance was a mod was like:
                      You Know what? This thread doesn't represent the community we want! Delete!
                      Or that Parmaviolets would've been like:
                      You know what? Maybe I was wrong after all, this thread is useless. Delete!
                      That didn't happen.
                      Do you think I give si gle f's about this? It only has nostalgia for me, from a time that I wasn't yet the God-King opezdal.
                      Now I am however, it's a hard to fulfill role.
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                      SayingPleaseHelps

                        @SirIronSights

                        I don't qualify
                        Then curb your ... well... everything you gutless slug!

                        This was one of the most active threads for quite awhile, so even if things were to get out of hand, you gotta think twice before deleting the foremost source of activity on the forums. And OP, well, they are a lot of things, but you will notice they do not lack foolish determination, so if this thread stayed up at the peak of the shitstorm, I doubt it will go now, when all the fans are basically off.

                        (now watch me proven wrong by this thread actually getting deleted right away.)

                        On a side note, you might be putting too much faith in the title of opezdal, it has way less to do with being the God-King rather than receiving some from one. And not in a mutually agreeable way at that.

                        SirIronSights

                          I'm not opezdal, nor the god-king
                          I'm the God-King opezdal.
                          @parmaviolets you know what to do. Delete the thread. Make his day.
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                          Ps: slugs do have guts.
                          I'm pretty sure they're gonna beat you up now.

                          SayingPleaseHelps

                            I'm the God-King opezdal.
                            While I understand that you seek to invoke a certain sense of grandiose scale of your opezdalness, I cannot help but notice that being an opezdal itself is very much incompatible with grandiosity. So either add an apostrophe and s to make your statement grammatically correct or just call yourself an oxymoron openly. (This is definitely not a bait associated with the last five letters in the word oxymoron.)

                            Also, slugs don't have guts, you can squash one and see for yourself. Just like you are absolutely squashing the requirements for becoming a mark.

                            Sixe史吏

                              "People who say 1k is harder than 3k are actually not that far from truth. In 1k you can't predict anything, can't rely on anyone. However, when you change your mindset, and treat it as 1v9 game (let noobs die, just farm), games become ez if you really are a 3k+ player. When I lost in 1k, it was mostly because I tried to help teammates instead farming. That's the mindset you shouldn't have in 1k if you want to climb."

                              I feel like that's the best way to climb and develop habits that require less "relearning" at higher brackets. 1-3k players typically all want to be core and have no sense of power timings. You can, of course, rise as an initiator or support or captain because most 1-3k teams (yes, even in China) have 4+ cores and wannabe cores (like riki and pudge or SB->Aghs WD/Lion, lol). This necessarily makes laning impossible and most will endlessly feed after the laning phase in your jungle on "ganks". If you can restrain your team from doing similar things or capitalize on their throws, you will win most games, but it creates bad habits for a player once he reaches the level where enemy supports actually exist, enemy cores have better sense of their power windows, better laning skills, and don't make such stupid mid-game moves. Such "support mains" will then literally be clueless and useless in higher tier games on a strategic level and will have to relearn, even if their people skills and teamfighting skills are decent.

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                              ubica

                                it brings us back to discussion about how you must play core if you want to learn dota. because low skill supports will never understand what and when the core wants them to provide in the first place, if they don't have significant experience at the role themselves.
                                besides, most of them think getting some item as support matters more than letting your carry have a good time, even if they had an idea how to help.

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                                Sixe史吏

                                  "besides, most of them think getting some item as support matters more than letting your carry have a good time, even if they had an idea how to help."

                                  I find the opposite is true with many First World "support mains" at low tier. They glorify being selfless to the point of outright feeding and being useless past 25 minutes, saying shit like "I'm so poor, boo hoo, I don't have money to buy one defensive item vs. slark/zeus" (because they sentried half the map against two heroes who can easily spot enemy wards). Reddit is filled with their circlejerk, for example.

                                  Then there are the players who build defensive items as decorations and never use them because hotkeys are too hard for them or forget that you can cast force staff and gliimmer cape on allies (and when they try to use it on an ally, they accidentally self-cast) or their brain and hands (as well as possibly their internet) both just lag too much to react properly or simply are too selfish and only use those items to save themselves.

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                                  SayingPleaseHelps

                                    I feel like that's the best way to climb and develop habits that require less "relearning" at higher brackets.
                                    And I know that what you feel is irrelevant. Especiallly if you follow that up with some unsubstantiated generalisations in the face of pointing out varied behaviour in the same post.

                                    Every attempt you can make to "blame the team" is crushed by a simple notion that you have only 4 moron teammates and 5 moron enemies and if you were capable to play the game right there would be no need for scapegoats. Now let's hear all the smurfs complaints again.

                                    SirIronSights

                                      @sayingpleasehelps, slugs do have guts. If you squish slugs, you squish their organs as well.
                                      If you squish a human, the organs will be unrecognizable as well.
                                      If you want to see for yourself.
                                      Look it up online.
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                                      Also I don't add apostrof.
                                      But just because you seem to be bothered by it.
                                      '' '' '' '' '' '' '' '' '' '' ''
                                      There you go.
                                      Does it help? It probably made you feel better.
                                      Also opezdal is superior to everything. It's just a fact.
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                                      Also, it's Opezdals. 1 opezdal 2 Opezdals. It's how Opezdals work.
                                      Grammatically correct? No. Cuz I ain't politically correct either.
                                      Are you, do you support social justice?

                                      SirIronSights

                                        Also, also, also.
                                        Do you realise opezdal is also better?
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                                        ubica

                                          nobody is denying that most games are you + 4 retards vs 5 retards. but if you cooperate with your 4 retards, that just makes your team consist of 5 retards instead of 4.

                                          SirIronSights

                                            ^well
                                            You are a retard as well.
                                            Because that's what your logic says.
                                            And because it true.
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                                            The God-King did his duty
                                            Another F.O.O.L down

                                            SayingPleaseHelps

                                              The God-King did his duty

                                              Wasn't it God-King opezdal? Consistency, everyone. Next step - forget this thing

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                                              couple times and you can finally phase out your opezdal nature with that particular distraction.

                                              And no, slugs don't have guts, they have internal organs, but none of those are guts, their digestive system is not that developed.
                                              As a Dota player though you should have guts to say "fuck you guys, that's a bad idea" and let the morons 4v5 in their moron ways while you are winning the game.

                                              VStheman

                                                its not that hard tbh. im 3k and i played on my friend's account who's around 1k and it wasn't bad at all when i picked a hard carry. I easily destroyed them but i remember having an incredibly frustrating game when i picked support as i was bored of carrying. So in the end i just picked carries and boosted his account. The lesson i learned was that the carries in that bracket do NOT know how to farm gold fast and being a support is pretty useless late game. So to get out of the bracket if you think you're good enough just pick a hero who's more significant. Get a ward for yourself if your support is shit, it costs only 75 gold but it'll save your life a couple of times.
                                                My record was 20 games played, 17 won, 3 lost. Ranked games.
                                                17 games picked carry
                                                3 games picked support
                                                you get the idea.

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                                                '96 Neve Campbell

                                                  Why would you bump this thread

                                                  ETd

                                                    Why not

                                                    cartel

                                                      multiple reasons

                                                      nICE

                                                        @parmviolets you are an Ancient now. How is your party MMR, still the same?

                                                        '96 Neve Campbell

                                                          I have 3900 party, up by about 450 since i made this thread but I rarely play nowadays

                                                          Tribo

                                                            So, after 37 pages of quality post and spam, do you still believe that 1k games are harder than 3k presuming that you're talking about soloq games?

                                                            SirIronSights

                                                              @tribo
                                                              Stop bumping this thread
                                                              You wouldn't want me dancing on your grandma's grave either

                                                              Tribo

                                                                Aight

                                                                kk

                                                                  no longer bumping this thread ok?

                                                                  kk

                                                                    we all know that 1k games are really easy and if you can't win on 1ks then you are 1k

                                                                    Vertoxity

                                                                      Everyone at this point knows that this thread is just a meme.

                                                                      SirIronSights

                                                                        ^it's a dead meme now. Let it rest.

                                                                        '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                          So, after 37 pages of quality post and spam, do you still believe that 1k games are harder than 3k presuming that you're talking about soloq games?

                                                                          Uh. I think 1k games are harder to carry but 3k games are harder to stomp.
                                                                          I stand by alot of what I said in my initial post though, I dont feel like my solo games are getting harder yet as I progress. Maybe when there is less disparity between by solo and party I will start to see an increase in difficulty.

                                                                          And yeah maybe dont bump this thread.

                                                                          SirIronSights

                                                                            Parma. Stop bumping please.
                                                                            You ain't panda.

                                                                            EX Crusader player

                                                                              Uh. I think 1k games are harder to carry but 3k games are harder to stomp.

                                                                              that literally doesnt make sense

                                                                              I dont feel like my solo games are getting harder yet as I progress

                                                                              what progress, you're the same mmr as you were 3 monts ago. obviously games cant get harder because you dont play it (you are satisifed with 2k mmr, because in order to get past 2k you need to put some actual effort) - better be fake ancient and talk shit you dont know about brackets you've never been D:

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                                                                                EX Crusader player

                                                                                  Wasn't me. Mods. :)

                                                                                  Tribo

                                                                                    Wasn't me. Mods. :)

                                                                                    cartel
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                                                                                      EX Crusader player

                                                                                        So parma, is 1k harder than 3k afterall?

                                                                                        Tribo

                                                                                          omegalul vertoxicty bro u r losing in archon bracket

                                                                                          SirIronSights

                                                                                            Pls Parma, just stop pretending. You have a loving family.

                                                                                            papito bravo

                                                                                              @SirIronSights

                                                                                              Everyone knows you don't.
                                                                                              Please don't be jelly of her

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                                                                                              EX Crusader player

                                                                                                omegalul vertoxicty bro u r losing in archon bracket

                                                                                                i've tried to play Void, didnt end up well. I guess im just shit void

                                                                                                oof

                                                                                                  13k dmg and 24 min bfury, i guess you really wanted to get into that archon spirit. become the enemy.

                                                                                                  EX Crusader player

                                                                                                    13k dmg and 24 min bfury, i guess you really wanted to get into that archon spirit. become the enemy.

                                                                                                    ye i played badly

                                                                                                    parma would say her team held her back D:

                                                                                                    oof

                                                                                                      idk i expected you to say that you low key threw that game on purpose by doing random sht