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General DiscussionA survey on ranked roles vs normal ranked matchmaking

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SEA ranked #1 Feeder KEK

    Just to get a sense if its pay 2 win by valve how many of you guys use ranked roles vs normal ranked since its a dota plus feature nowadays. I personally lost mmr in ranked after ranked roles being introduced. Pls share your experiences.

    Your Team Mate

      its only benefit is guarnteed mid,

      its con, the stupidier the player the more they que carry, so as before the retards would be last to select a lane and play support,

      but now the retards are queing carry and the carry player is always the worst on the team by leagues. Also, dipshits from other servers where the MMR is not the same.

      Meaning some 3.4k retard from sea or europe who is 2k equivalent on NA server ends being the worst player on the team, he also talks in a slow drawl monotone that rapes your IQ just listening to him.

      Your Team Mate

        playing dota is convincing me of mass lead poisioning.

        SEA ranked #1 Feeder KEK

          How can u be playing diff servers if u only pick a server for queue?

          Your Team Mate

            people from outside the US que on USWEST and USEAST all time, infact only 20% of the people queing for a US server at any given time actually live in the US.

            And these foreign players are always 1k mmr below the skill level of US mmr. They might be 3k, but not US 3k skill level by a long shot. in their country most people are undeducated animals who can barely read or write, so 3k mmr in those countries is like 200 mmr in us.

            KUKULAMIN KA BUT THE K IS...

              Hes absolutely right 5 games on ranked role and always the worst player on the team is carry :/

              The only real upside:I dont have to first pick mid hero and the other 3 people know how to use their mic.

              A

                so that explain why i saw many dotaplus player playing normal ranked

                StrowBury

                  Wow Legend 1 USA player talking trash about whole countries SMH..Your dumb ass elected that orange in the white house moron!! :D XD

                  Rocket

                    The new ranked roles is different to the battlepass version.

                    They’ve done something to matching algorithm to keep the queue times shorter.

                    Matchmaking matches from the highest mdr person queuing downwards doesn’t it? If so makes sense that the carry/mid is always lowest mmr because there is a team of 3 matches with similar mmr and then matchmaking just throws them a carry/mid and if you are above average mmr then that core is probably worse mmr than the supports.

                    Have they also split it off from normal ranked now? I never used to get matched with other ranked roles teams.

                    chicken spook,,,,

                      :D XD

                      Your Team Mate

                        @ Da_DeViL My dumbass, is saving $65,000 in taxes this year in my business, vs paying more taxes and getting nothing from hillary. I will take my $65,000 from trump tax cut and hope you starve.

                        StrowBury

                          lol you want us to believe that you earn 4000USD per week and still this dumb? Nice Try

                          MuLLi

                            Ranked and Roles at party queue I have noticed Roles as party of 2 u get to same lane without arguments and in normal party ranked u might need this pre-game shit storm to play the same lane. However queue times is 2x or more

                            Dukeus

                              Played 2 ranked roles matches so far recently. 2 wins.

                              Nice to get offlane. Queue times seem ok there.

                              Tried to play pos 1 in battlepass RR. Waited for like 20 min and stoped the search then.

                              Is the enemy Team a ranked roles Team also? Or just a normal Team?

                              Somehow i start to like it. You can rly try to improve your skill with a certain role if your willing to wait a bit longer.

                              Lesbolas

                                The big difference i see its on mmr difference(im archon and i play whit ancients sometimes in RR)Also people communicate more (not sure is a pro some ppl are very salty).

                                Lesbolas

                                  And yea seems crazy but mid and carry are or totally retarded or above average .
                                  Seems kids and climbers play this roles on RR.
                                  Also im always support and im surprised how often the other support is good and thats wierd counting its short quequed.
                                  On average i say carry and offlane are the worst.
                                  Also every game feels better (higher level than normal MM)

                                  Hupples

                                    Ranked Roles games are usually much more enjoyable.

                                    Yall Phggts

                                      Overall I’ve found ranked roles worse. The queue times I’ve had were around 8+ mins on average, and the skill/mmr disparity was huge.

                                      It would probably be more worthwhile on other servers. Aus players rarely fight over lanes, so there is little benefit.

                                      Kotato

                                        i think i should try it as well, so tired of having 3 or more supports in normal rnaked games and no on picks carry there

                                        KUKULAMIN KA BUT THE K IS...

                                          Huge benefit on sea server cuz you get to filter out a few plebs!

                                          poggies

                                            Ranked roles have huge mmr disparities

                                            Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                                              Based on experience, ranked roles is less toxic than normal ranked.

                                              I had this one meepo game where i constantly got dced due to high ping and teammates never flamed me.

                                              Kunkka game where i got disconnected due to power outage, teammates never flamed me.

                                              ETd

                                                Is this guy saying that NA MMR is worth more than the other servers LOL

                                                SEA ranked #1 Feeder KEK

                                                  Heard a friend mentioned the dota plus role ranked is better than the battle pass... how true is this? Anyone exp any diff?

                                                  play for fun

                                                    i tried it and honestly the only con is the waiting time - played 2 games and one had 10 minutes searching time and the other over 30 minutes (for midlane so that's understandable i guess but stll somewhat bad). on the other hand the people there seem more coordinated and play somewhat better than their non-ranked roles counterparts. definetely worth it

                                                    InSaNE

                                                      Hmm... can we have more inputs pls... i used to play battle pass ranked roles and thats 50 50 to me. But apparently some ppl said the ranked roles in dota plus is better than that..anyone care to share their experiences?

                                                      Rocket

                                                        It seems valve have turned off the language preference filter in ranked roles (at least on EUW)

                                                        Pre-post-TI I cant remember the last time I didn’t have English speaking teammates but now it is quite rare. I’m guessing it’s an effort to keep the queue time down?

                                                        I’ve tried queuing offline but I go back to my brief that you should always queue mid/safelane because they are the roles that normal have a toxic kid in them. You’re reducing the number of game runners by 50% if you queue pos 1/2 - assuming no you’re not a toxic fuck of course.

                                                        Duster!

                                                          They need to remove AP ranked so everybody funnels into random draft, CM or ranked roles. The most retarded ranked mode has by far the lowest q times.

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                                                          Quartermistress

                                                            Peeps use their mic, peeps are willing to play their roles. There was only once when a guy queued support and picked jugger and stole it from someone.
                                                            So yeah I think it's worth it tbh.

                                                            inx4c

                                                              Tried once
                                                              Enemy rank 600 enchantress touched my rank 4600 spectre
                                                              Never bothered again

                                                              NaturesProphet

                                                                i've heard it's way less toxic due to one of the biggest conflicts being removed - fighting over lanes
                                                                should be good to play unless you're at a very high MMR (where MMR disparity in games might cause a problem)

                                                                Blueberry

                                                                  I honestly think it mostly benefits the type of player to always want mid or carry and thus fights over it. I play all roles and just pick what benefits the team, and feel that dotaplus only gives me huge mmr disparities and significantly less drafting freedom.

                                                                  Rocket

                                                                    I think you’d have 90% of the benefit of ranked roles and 10% of the queue time if you just got to choose between mid/safe and other.

                                                                    Autumnus

                                                                      Already have huge mmr disparity at 5.4k, ranked roles only work on on 5k below