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General DiscussionThe behaviour score system is completely broken and needs to be overh...

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Tribo

    Hey pviolet clap we've the same behaviorscore it's only a 3k mmr gap between us tho

    ETd

      I’m at 9.5K BS in high 3K MMR bracket(Legend IV area) and I still find toxic morons. How the hell do you guys play at such toxic depths.

      ubica

        i don't, i play on smurf coz fuck toxic animals

        Hatrið mun sigra

          Op btw can I add you? Haven't calibrated my party yet and it would be cool to play with another girl for once.

          cuddles

            I've never used voice chat in Dota at least until like halfway through if my team seems cool and we're doing fairly well. I just communicate with pings and usually just typing out a few things in a super non confrontational way. might be easier for me since I pretty much play hard support. I've been really working on not tilting lately & trying to work with my team even if they suck, like trying to just explain why things they're doing are wrong to try and get them to listen to me. Def sucks relying on typing though :/ I have 10k behavior score but I do mostly play party.

            I always think like maybe I'll start talking in voice just to try and give visibility to girls playing dota, but I can usually just get by with pings & it makes me nervous so I rarely do it lol. Also I hate to confirm peoples bias in case I have a shit game.

            Idk what to say about people spite reporting you bc they disagree about how you're playing though, that really sucks.

            Crimson Sky

              Spite reports are toxic af. I never type other than to say objectives or remind people at start of key items (vessel vs timber for example) or to say gj / wp. I carried the shit out of my 10 calib games and got 4 reports. Also got many commends from team mates so essentially it’s the enemy reporting me. Yes I lost like 200 BS 🤔

              I think enemy reports should be treated differently to allied reports somehow.

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              CAESAR KING OF APES

                I have 20+ commends in nearly every summary, but 4+ reports make my behaviour score to drop (6-6.5k BS). Games are fine when my behaviour score is 6k+, but when it drops the game quality significantly drops. I mostly get reported for stomping by enemies (whole page in profile with rampages, high avg gpm etc.). They report me for boosting/smurfing.

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                smurfs = no balls

                  the system works well... i was toxic and abandoning so many games and ended up getting 2k behaviour score, now i have climbed to 4,5k (and rising) in couple weeks by actually being a decent human being. its all up to u m8

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                  CAESAR KING OF APES

                    ^Play mid or carry, and it will be much harder to climb behaviour score.

                    '96 Neve Campbell

                      the system works well... i was toxic and abandoning so many games and ended up getting 2k behaviour score, now i have climbed to 4,5k (and rising) in couple weeks by actually being a decent human being. its all up to u m8
                      Inaccurate, I think you are the only person in the world who has managed to actively gain behaviour score whilst sub-6k. It also helps if you dont play core roles. I always do a mid carry in my solo games because I have only 2k solo and because of that my entire team is constantly critical of what im doing. (Apparently I am not even allowed to stack and farm the large camp without being accused of losing my lane and failing to support my team??)

                      Thursday

                        @ventraltegmentum Nice vid there, dude.

                        Even for someone as normally 9.6~10k behavior daily, I still learned quite some things from that.

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                        kowareta

                          @parma
                          just pre mute chat in some games and see the difference :)
                          it helps u to focus better
                          and also 2k players have some issues i dont understand, no matter u fucked ur lane 1v2, or 1v3, no matter u have 3-4 lvl adv and u are godlike in the game, if u lose the game or if they die, they start to blame someone, they just dont want to change themselves :)

                          NO REASON AND NO NEED TO COMMUNICATE TO THESE PPL, U DONT NEED IT AT ALL!

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                            i played a 2k game once and my opponent mid died to lane creeps

                            '96 Neve Campbell

                              i played a 2k game once and my opponent mid died to lane creeps
                              Deja vu much?

                              2k mmr or 2k behaviour score?

                              varjager

                                I think the report system works but at a certain point its hard to get out of a low behavior score. If a player never tilts and always helps team and never argue, there is no way that player wont have a 10k score. Sure the player might get 1 or 2 unjust reports but those are just wasted reports that wont do anything.

                                Lets face it all players tilt, all players argue, all players do stupid shit. Some are just more tactical about it.

                                BTW I have a 10k score.

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                                  i played a 2k mmr game once and my opponent mid died to lane creeps

                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                    i played a 2k mmr game once and my opponent mid died to lane creeps
                                    I find that very hard to believe

                                    Boosted bracket enjoyer

                                      I smurf there regularly with my pr0 smurfs Marko and Harold, they never cease to amaze me, i like how they all pretend they are super pr0 and how they belong in high MMR and then complain about small number of smurfs holding them back or noob teammates or whatever, wich is ridicouls because 5k+ players are litteraly 1% of dota 2 population and we dont all smurf.

                                      BTW now when im back to bluestar i can post on forums again to avoid nonbluestar shame!

                                      SirIronSights

                                        im sorry, but it looks like you belong there.
                                        the first allchat text is focus me more dumbasses, said by a lina.
                                        that lina is you.
                                        if thats how you react in the allchat, i would love to see the reaction of your team, after you flamed them.
                                        because we all know you did, dont hide it.
                                        everytime someone makes treads like these, they have some sort of babyrage issue.
                                        you guaranteed have a babyrage issue.
                                        you probably flame your supports for mistakes that you wouldve made as well, but because you play carry (which is less complicated than support) you feel good.
                                        carried the shit out of the game? suuuure 11-12 and THE reason your team won.
                                        this attitude makes me think you are insanely toxic in your pubs.
                                        toxic people get reported more often, making their behaviour score lower.
                                        even adolf Hitler would say that hes not that BAD, but that doesnt mean he wasnt that BAD.
                                        you died 4 times in 12 minutes.
                                        either the enemy is insane on the ganks, or you die way too many times on a lane (probably a little of both)
                                        the game itself already said that theres no mid, probably sky roamed way more than you.
                                        i see it like this: you lost lane, came back when the game got in your favour, made the farm happen, got a shitty score and got reported to then immediatly go onto dotabuff to tell everyone that this one toxic player (named parmaviolets) doesnt belong in the toxic shithole of low behaviour score.
                                        you flamed your supports, but you didnt ask them nicely.
                                        flames get answered with flames.
                                        low behaviour is like oil, you light in on fire, and the entire place burns down.
                                        and no, i aint trying to type this out this far, im just trying to get a insanely long post.
                                        the ending note would be, you are a garbage human being, and thus belong in the garbage human being behaviour score.
                                        before you ask, am i a garbage human player? maybe, but at least people like me enough not to report me.
                                        you didnt get that going through your brain.
                                        just keep completely silent, and play support.
                                        i guarantee you, you wont get reported nearly as much as toxic flaming all the teammates, whilst playing trash yourself as well.
                                        ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ i end this post here.
                                        if you want to be a little kid, go ahead. (on minecraft)
                                        otherwise keep it silent, and stop making these dumb threads.
                                        90% sure that viper carried this more than you did.
                                        just a guess.

                                        kowareta

                                          i played a 2k mmr game once and my opponent mid died to lane creeps

                                          i played a 2k mmr game once and our rubick stole es ult and did pogchamp game winning ult :)

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                                            he tunnelvisioned so hard on hitting me that he died to lane creeps

                                            nop
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                                              Talker

                                                I dont understand how you can have low behavior score - people only have 3 reports, so toxic ones usually have non, as they use it as soon as they have it and more people should be commending. So you got yourself into this mess somehow, either by leaving or being toxic af. I can be mean as well sometimes (especially playing drunk), but I never got more than 3 reports.

                                                '96 Neve Campbell

                                                  Hey look everyone its SirIronSights the clueless crusader!
                                                  I think I wrote one thing into the all chat because the enemy sky was salty at me for dumpstering his lane so everytime I showed up to a fight he would drop all of his abilities on me. By this point I was already annoyed because my team had done nothing but flame me to the point where I had to mute them despite the fact that I never once said anything. If I was going to flame my team I would have said a lot more in all chat. And no. The Viper had practically no presence the entire game. I think they spent 70% of the game farming the jungle whilst I had to spend the entire time creating space for the techies and for this troll and viper to fight over farm cause they were too dumb to split the jungle or push lanes. Basically all of my deaths were at the start of the game where I was basically frontlining vs. a Skywrath, an Invoker and a Huskar with no bkb. I'm not really expecting you to understand much though cause you are probably pretty comparable to the brainlet troll/viper in terms of skill level and therefore you probably would have also have flamed me for trying very hard to create oppurtunity that game. The fact that I got practically double the CS of anyone on my team as a 'pos 2' and the fact that I did 10k damage to buildings should be all the evidence you need that I carried the game and if it isnt feel free to watch the replay. Until then stop pretending like you actually know what you are talking about cause its frankly embarrassing watching you and this panda troll spread your trashtalk and try and annoy me everytime I write anything.

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                                                  kowareta

                                                    he tunnelvisioned so hard on hitting me that he died to lane creeps

                                                    btw im agree with u xD
                                                    in that game (rubick one) we had alch on mid , 40 min 10 k networth, his biggest item mana boot :)))
                                                    imagine buying mana boot on alchemist :))))))))))))))))

                                                    kowareta

                                                      @kkq dont be angry bruh :) u can have shiny medal u want in this season :) gaben loves u :)
                                                      just play party :)
                                                      we can even play together if u want :) unless u playing pos 3 like me and thats will be so sad :(

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                                                        creating space for the techies

                                                        '96 Neve Campbell


                                                          creating space for the techies

                                                          Considering he was the only person on my team doing anything yeah actually. I thought we were going to lost so I had to push out all the lanes and prevent the other team from pushing so that the techies could set up mines and such. In the end it 100% paid off because we probably would have lost if it wasnt for techies mines this game. But then again if they had played an actual hero the other team wouldnt even have pushed across the river all game anyway

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                                                            you sound pretty toxic ngl

                                                            '96 Neve Campbell

                                                              I'm not a toxic person by nature. I get frustrated sometimes but I never flame people unless provoked.

                                                              Tribo

                                                                ^With all due respect, Dota is not a game for you then...

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                                                                  But then again if they had played an actual hero the other team wouldnt even have pushed across the river all game anyway

                                                                  people who think like this are just yikes to have on ur team

                                                                  SirIronSights

                                                                    The fact that you responded in the way you did, makes me believe that you have indeed, deserved to be in low behavior! Congrats!
                                                                    Sky focuses you, and that's salty? Just cuz you are easy to kill (and a carry) and he pushes that advantage?
                                                                    Also of course he goes for you, you were the one baby raging as much as a chihuahua that sees another dog. He wants to make you rage quit.
                                                                    So you lose the sky argument by a lot. (did you even put effort in this, or did your narcistic ego get hurt that much that it had to come up with a quick, weak excuse for your behavior?
                                                                    Also viper had no presence, but still he has 21 assist, against your 22.
                                                                    He has 16 kills against your 11
                                                                    He has 9 deaths, against your 12.
                                                                    Counting this up: viper was in 37 kills, you were in 33.
                                                                    My conclusion: he farmed whilst playing a aggressive game.
                                                                    To end the viper argument: you were wrong, yet again
                                                                    You were frontlining against their heroes, but why?
                                                                    Seems like you were out of position then, makes sense.
                                                                    Yet again that I had to make space for my carry argument works, but you take it too far to the point that your pretend that you being out of position was neccesary, instead of realizing that being out of position is never good.
                                                                    Then I am comparable with troll/viper.
                                                                    Viper is comparable with you.
                                                                    Meaning that you are comparable with me.
                                                                    That makes sense, because you and I are both very low skill players.
                                                                    I don't get hurt by it, but thanks for saying that I belong in the archon/legend bracket, warms my heart.
                                                                    (argument lost! Retreat to another quick made up argument!)
                                                                    You say you were the one that carried, by hitting their buildings for 10k dmg.
                                                                    Maybe, but maybe it's like this:
                                                                    Youre hitting the buildings, whilst your viper and pudge battle it out with your enemy's. Troll does a 50/50 hit/fight.
                                                                    You stay completely focused on the building.
                                                                    I'm sorry to say this, but just because you did the most tower damage, doesn't make you the uncontested MVP.
                                                                    Conclusion: (yet another argument lost)
                                                                    Also panda and I have united on 1 front, we are bove smarter and we both use a more complex forum of communication Than you do.
                                                                    You my friend are just narcistic, and even in THAT you suck ass, because I AM A WAY BETTER NARCIST than you (because I use my brain, instead of trying to attack like a wounded animal (not a panda though, even pandas are better defenders when they are wounded than you).
                                                                    Maybe I'm a clueless crusader, but at least I'm not a bad legend with a blown up-shattered ego ;)
                                                                    つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
                                                                    Opezdal will burn your entire argument. Probably because you spilled oil all over it.
                                                                    Also you could've made an argument about that I didn't watch the game, and had no idea about what the teamchat said. Would've been a better argument.
                                                                    But then yet again you 2 slow 2 understand anything panda and I give to you.
                                                                    Why do I enjoy this so much?
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                                                                    '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                      ^With all due respect, Dota is not a game for you then...
                                                                      Why? So now I am not allowed to play a game I enjoy because some people are toxic? I think not.

                                                                      people who think like this are just yikes to have on ur team
                                                                      People like what? People who think techies is a dodgy pick in 2k mmr? Sorry for being reasonable...

                                                                      SirIronSights

                                                                        ^this is alot of fun.
                                                                        You're defensive all the time, like these people personally attack you.
                                                                        That makes you a extremely viable target for trolling.
                                                                        That makes it fun to poke you, and see you react.
                                                                        つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
                                                                        Opezdal doesn't need to smart. He just needs to be smarter than you, and to his credit: he is!
                                                                        :smileyface:

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                                                                          if u have a 7k techies spammer he would carry ur ass. there are no bad heroes, especially in 2k mmr

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                                                                            just bad players

                                                                            varjager

                                                                              I'm not a toxic person by nature. I get frustrated sometimes but I never flame people unless provoked.

                                                                              Thats what most people do they bait you into an argument which you cant win(or lose). When you have a low behavior score every report counts. Ignore them and dont respond.

                                                                              SirIronSights

                                                                                ^this guy gets it completely, I made you walk right in a trap. A trap you'll never get out of, because your:
                                                                                1. Not smart enough
                                                                                2. Too fast with the answers
                                                                                3. You don't think before you react
                                                                                4. You never want to admit mistakes in dota 2
                                                                                5. Narcistic AF (And sucking big time in it)
                                                                                6. A bad player, but just on higher mmr
                                                                                7. Mistaken

                                                                                SirIronSights

                                                                                  If you want another round you can get it, or admit that you were wrong once again, delete the thread and move on with your life.
                                                                                  At least we didn't have to drag panda into this.

                                                                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                    The fact that you responded in the way you did, makes me believe that you have indeed, deserved to be in low behavior! Congrats!
                                                                                    What? So I am just supposed to let you talk a bunch of rubbish and be like 'yeah ok friend that makes sense'? What would you have me do?

                                                                                    Sky focuses you, and that's salty? Just cuz you are easy to kill (and a carry) and he pushes that advantage?
                                                                                    There is a difference between picking out the correct target and literally getting smacked to death like this sky was and travelling half way across the teamfight whilst dying to a troll he could have killed to kill me instead. That is called tunnel vision and its something that crappy players do when they are fixated with a certain enemy hero.
                                                                                    Also of course he goes for you, you were the one baby raging as much as a chihuahua that sees another dog. He wants to make you rage quit.
                                                                                    But clearly I wasn't? Did you not just real the all chat yourself? I said one thing the entire game and that was AFTER this fight.
                                                                                    So you lose the sky argument by a lot. (did you even put effort in this, or did your narcistic ego get hurt that much that it had to come up with a quick, weak excuse for your behavior?
                                                                                    Narcissistic ego? Arent you the big crusader boy trying to pretend like you know what you are talking about here? I dont recall the part where I was a narcissist apart from where I correctly said that I carried this game, which anyone who knew a thing about dota would be able to understand.
                                                                                    Also viper had no presence, but still he has 21 assist, against your 22.
                                                                                    Assists dont really mean too much. It doesnt exactly take much to show up to a fight after afking in the jungle as a viper for half the game and getting some assist damage and a few pick off kills.
                                                                                    He has 16 kills against your 11
                                                                                    But kills arent a metric as to whether you carried a game? I have carried games as Crystal Maiden with 3 kills before. As I said it doesnt take much to get pick off damage and secure kills as a Viper, literally one of the easiest heros to get kills with in the game...
                                                                                    He has 9 deaths, against your 12.
                                                                                    Yes. The fact that he almost died as much as me despite doing a third of the work whilst being 3 times tankier than I am says a lot about his skill level doesnt it?
                                                                                    Counting this up: viper was in 37 kills, you were in 33.
                                                                                    But kills dont mean anything.
                                                                                    My conclusion: he farmed whilst playing a aggressive game.
                                                                                    My conclusion: He sat afk'd in the jungle despite having one of the best early-midgame heros in the game and getting ocassional pick-off if the other team actually stepped up to push when they managed to kill me.
                                                                                    To end the viper argument: you were wrong, yet again
                                                                                    Clearly not.
                                                                                    You were frontlining against their heroes, but why?
                                                                                    Because we had a techies and the other players on my team were farming instead of fighting for most of the early game.
                                                                                    Seems like you were out of position then, makes sense.
                                                                                    Yet again that I had to make space for my carry argument works, but you take it too far to the point that your pretend that you being out of position was neccesary, instead of realizing that being out of position is never good.
                                                                                    There is no such thing as playing out of position in 2k mmr when the other team is usually too bad to organise a response or pick-off out of position heros. Being a distraction and even dying to secure objectives and space for my team is 100% worth it and is how a lot of games are secured.
                                                                                    Then I am comparable with troll/viper.
                                                                                    Yes. You are very comparable with toxic 2ks considering you are one.
                                                                                    Viper is comparable with you.
                                                                                    No he isnt.
                                                                                    Meaning that you are comparable with me.
                                                                                    That makes sense, because you and I are both very low skill players.
                                                                                    At least you are self aware.
                                                                                    I don't get hurt by it, but thanks for saying that I belong in the archon/legend bracket, warms my heart.
                                                                                    No. You probably belong in the crusader bracket, which is where you are.
                                                                                    You say you were the one that carried, by hitting their buildings for 10k dmg.
                                                                                    Yes. That is exactly what I am saying. Building damage is probably the most reliable metric to determine whether or not someone carried in the entire game.
                                                                                    Youre hitting the buildings, whilst your viper and pudge battle it out with your enemy's. Troll does a 50/50 hit/fight.
                                                                                    You stay completely focused on the building.
                                                                                    That would explain why I did more hero damage than the Viper and the Troll...
                                                                                    I'm sorry to say this, but just because you did the most tower damage, doesn't make you the uncontested MVP.
                                                                                    Having the highest gpm, xpm, tower damage and hero damage on my team makes me the uncontested MVP.
                                                                                    Also panda and I have united on 1 front, we are bove smarter and we both use a more complex forum of communication Than you do.
                                                                                    You two are comparable like the paint bubbles from spongebob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZVy1PPQOhU
                                                                                    You are both unwelcome and when you combine into a united front your annoying bullshit erupts everywhere irritating everyone.
                                                                                    Maybe I'm a clueless crusader
                                                                                    Yes. That is what you are.
                                                                                    Also you could've made an argument about that I didn't watch the game, and had no idea about what the teamchat said. Would've been a better argument.
                                                                                    I said that myself but clearly you didn't read that part cause your head was too far up your ass
                                                                                    Why do I enjoy this so much?
                                                                                    Cause you are a masochist?

                                                                                    Tribo

                                                                                      Why? So now I am not allowed to play a game I enjoy because some people are toxic? I think not

                                                                                      Dota is not a game for players who can't handle the pressure, toxicity and different mentalities of 5 players getting matched up randomly in soloq. By what I've read and seen so far, you're a player who focuses more in typing crap to teammates instead of just focusing on ur own game. Try to talk less in game; not only your BS will increase but you'll also gain MMR
                                                                                      Nothing personal (-:

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                                                                                      '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                        Fighting you is a lot like hitting a small child and as such I am now going to ignore everything you say, much like I would if a small child decided to irritate me.

                                                                                        Thats what most people do they bait you into an argument which you cant win(or lose).

                                                                                        This is completely correct and I will admit I am too easily baited by brainlets so I think from now on I will just ignore it. Maybe that will discourage them from trying to derail every thread I make or pick fights with me on sight.

                                                                                        Dota is not a game for players who can't handle the pressure, toxicity and different mentalities of 5 different players getting matched up randomly in soloq. By what I've read and seen so far, you're a player who focuses more in typing crap to teammates instead of just focusing on ur own game. Try to talk less in game; not only your BS will increase but you'll also gain MMR
                                                                                        Nothing personal (-:
                                                                                        I dont waste time arguing with teammates. In this game I muted both the viper and the troll as soon as they stated berating me about not having dust around the 15m mark. If people tilt me they get muted.

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                                                                                          let me tell you op ure not gonna get better if u dont change ur attitude

                                                                                          Tribo

                                                                                            ^tl;dr THIS

                                                                                            Tribo

                                                                                              also you're a friend of ClickToCast he's dragging you back to Herald

                                                                                              DSP

                                                                                                You're a grilll and people don't like to be lead by girls especially in dota community where everyone tries to be a dick to you. Try not to use voice in-game and reduce the communication with your teammates until your bs rises once again

                                                                                                SirIronSights

                                                                                                  1. No, we've been over this. Neglect it.
                                                                                                  2.hes wanting to make you rage, so that you either play like a baboon, or rq.
                                                                                                  3. I'm a crusader yes, but you're a bad legend, and you didn't solocarry this game. Fairly sorry.
                                                                                                  4. How would he have assists, if he's afk in the jungle all the time. Let alone that he has 1 less than you.
                                                                                                  5. You don't need kills to carry a game as support. You do need assists to do so tho.
                                                                                                  6. Still a higher KDA than you, that he (in the last phase) has more KDA than you through the entire game says alot doesn't it?
                                                                                                  7. They do ALOT.
                                                                                                  8. He still pushed when you were dead, proves my point.
                                                                                                  9. Why weren't you wrong? That's the place you put your conclusion, 0 points.
                                                                                                  10. Still doesn't mean you have to be on the front line.
                                                                                                  11. There is, playing out of position is on all Dota levels the same, how hard you get punished for it THAT depends.
                                                                                                  12. Exactly why is this toxic? Have you seen me play, or react like this in a game :)
                                                                                                  13. Why?
                                                                                                  14. Yes I am, poorly you aren't.
                                                                                                  15. How do you know where I belong? Have you seen me play?
                                                                                                  16. No, tiny can have the most tower dmg, still doesn't mean he hardcarried a game.
                                                                                                  17. Because you have spells with higher AoE.
                                                                                                  18. Nope, the supports don't t have these things, doesn't mean that they suck.
                                                                                                  19. Everyone? I am part of everyone, and I don't find panda annoying.
                                                                                                  20. If I'm a clueless crusader, then what does that make you? A bad legend?.
                                                                                                  21. Exactly where do you make that argument? Oh wait you don't. It's probably somewhere in that mumbo jumbo you wrote there as a sentence, not an argument.
                                                                                                  22.a person who derives sexual gratification from their own pain or humiliation. That's what the translation is. Are you aware that this is your humiliation, and not mine?

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