either butterfly, or skadi followed by daedalus (or butter again)
however meka is rarely optimal nowadays for SFs
for starters, sf is not an int hero. so if you buy meka or eul to sf, just quietly throw yourself from a bridge.
sf is an agile carry. get either pt or phase first, then go for dagger or shadow blade, depends on how the game goes. if you are getting many kills, go for more aggressive and buy crystals to turn into daedalus soon. but most likely game wont go like that, so you will need a bkb first. then get a yasha, you dont have to turn into anything immedietly. then win the game if you are not a trash player.
but before all that, you must win mid. control runes with bottle (if you are a bottle crower just uninstall the game)
brown boots aquila -> sb treads -> sny -> silvers edge / helm / bkb / skadi / daedalus / mkb / moonshard - for "active" sf
brown boots aquila -> sb bot -> sny -> helm + bkb -> daedalus/mkb -> moonshard - for farm
ftw
lmao meka/eul makers are mad
just played a sf mid for you rookies http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1857651652
it was 4v5 from the start, our rubick disconnected but still mmr counted. it was a game where enemy safe laner am bought pt pms bf on min 13:30
but is that a problem? nope. why? cause midder sf didnt go for shitty build
I think meka is more of a tanky build. Like nobody can actually kill you if you get meka at the right time. Its not that necessary to go meka. Sometimes i dont get it because we have a sup that buys meka and things like that. But i like building meka on sf i think it helps sf and his team.
eul doesnt make much sense anymore on sf because of range nerf.
mek is good if u have a team. consider u are playing pubs thats not really happening. id much rather get lothars. sf is horrible in pubs to begin with
Euls > Blink is the best feeling ever when you blow someone up that has 2k HP that was unkillable for your team mates.
yes rushing silvers is worth it IMO, sometimes i even like to build silvers edge even though there are no passives to break - gives lots of hp, dmg etc
can we have a feature thart allows the OP to block sub5k people from posting in his thread
4ks calling euls build 2k
gg im out
but srsly, without any sarcasm since now, why would you be so self-confident given that u r pretty low in mmr and dont have that much experience with the hero in games with aftually decent people?
I am the world's worst SF player... i can't play that hero if my life depended on it.. same as tinker :'(
i can farm with it but i cant win.. lord help me haha
oh well at least im not going for mass school shootings, wait what
also u know why 'muricans are bad at dota? cuz they cant defend their towerZZ roflmao
pub? go for early BOT and farm till your heart out.
5 man stacks? go for fast meka end game at 10-15min ggwp ez game.
eul? kill ur self. range nerf, and fucking not useful for 2.6k gold, you can get something like yasha or sange with that gold or dag or mek
If going mid, here is my build:
Two branches + two shared tangos
Bottle > Boots > Wand
Treads > S&Y > BKB
Desolator > Daedalus > [MKB/Butterfly]
Grab BoT and Moon Shard whenever.
heres my build for sf that seems to work pretty fuckin well (check my winrate)
starting: wraith band and tangos
early: bottle, aquila, treads
after that I go blink > bkb > hotd > skadi
sometimes I'll skip the hotd for a skadi if i need to tank up and get hp fast.
tbh blink and bkb are the only core items that I get pretty much everytime, sometimes i'll skip going hotd skadi and go for an mkb if i need it or even a butterfly very rarely.
if i'm stomping and want to end the game quickly i'll go ac deso daed to like 3 shot the enemy team
SO what is the more proper build when u know your team is full of russians/peruvians
I know it all depends on the draft/counter draft but in general if you aim for solo que wins?
A: 2shared tangos, 2branches > Bot > aquila > Brown boots > Mek > Sny > S Blade etc.
B: 2shared tangos, 2branches > Bot > aquila > Brown boots > Sny > HoD > Skadi> Manta/Blink
C: Crits instead of skadi
Does SF needs Blink/SBlade?
Thx
A or B most of the time, the difference being if your team is able to play as 5 or not.
If you have to do all the heavy work, go SnY instead of mek, push every single lane, farm, get HotD and Skadi, tank everything, use BKB, ult rrampage GG
idk, i still don't understand how would i be able to snowball even more when i'd get sny first instead of shadow blade or something
like you walk up to enemy and expect them to let you hit them or what?
You need either a sb or blink if you want to snowball. Sy can work, but it also depends on their pick
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I am usually going treads>meka>bkb first. What should i get later? I tried going sange and yasha or skadi but somehow i feel something is empty.