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General DiscussionAlchemist Mid?

Alchemist Mid? in General Discussion
Welt aus Eis

    idk, alch doesnt seem op hes just strong atm

    SPACEMAN

      LC Echo Sabre with Blademail all day everyday!

      my wife is fat

        lol i stand corrected...its not ehome vs vg then. watched too many qualifiers yesterday apparently...

        arin

          so what do you go after armlet and treads?
          radiance manta blade mail lotus? or some killing shit like shadow blade/blink solar ac

          no dota in dubai

            Idk but im pretty sure you wouldn't get bounty runes as an alch if someone else gets it first anyway(it would make sense that when playing against an alch mid you should deny him bounty runes but sometimes even your teammates don't get that alchemist gains so much from those runes 100x compared to them)

            Sir

              I love how clueless noobs say nonsense and when asked to explain they cba

              me, government hooker

                so what do you go after armlet and treads?

                treads what
                u go bots only when u build radi and if u dont get radi u shouldnt pick the hero

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                oykman

                  Alche's farm can't be stopped if you don't gank him all the time/have an early-game, aggressive lineup.
                  Get your facts straight: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2338852978 With an early armlet, soul ring and 2-3 bounties he can't die and be stopped after this point.

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                  Dire Wolf

                    If you go early armlet why do people still build into radiance, manta, octarine build? Why not a right click build with like battlefury (gives farm potential of radiance), abyssal/daedulus, satanic?

                    Androgynous

                      early armlet just gives you a lot of survivability

                      battle fury is a farming item like radiance, but you won't deal as much damage in teamfights in the early/mid game with battle fury compared to just running at people with your radiance turned on.

                      and if you go radiance, manta and octarine as next items make a lot of sense as they all have synergy together.

                      Dire Wolf

                        Yes they do, I just never got why everyone goes radiance over battlefury. But I think the abyssal change hurt right clicker alch. It was like core for him, now you sacrifice a lot of dmg for that bash, dunno if it's worth it or if he needs the block.

                        weeeeeeeeeeeeee

                          because radiance has a synergy with octarine and your manta illusions???
                          like what kind of question is that even.

                          A

                            in my bracket. i usually pick invoker to counter alche in mid lane. 3 level quas and acid is nothing !!! and invoker quas exort can denies creep easily for me :). and if he go rune you must warding it and ganking with cold snap + alacrity + sunstrike or cold snap + alacrity + turnado. ez mid. if he didnt mid???? ghost walk search jungle kill !!!!. ez

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                            no dota in dubai

                              ^i'm pretty sure 3 levels of your quas won't save you from punches in the face while standing in acid, granted the alche player knows what he's doing.

                              Dikson

                                QoP + Bara works very good vs alchemist.

                                CLICHÉ✪

                                  ^ Maybe in the very early game, but once Alch has Armlet he easily survives them (given youre able to press R + armlet in before charge hits you, which really isnt hard).
                                  Most players just overrate the dmg-potential of lvl 1-2 acid spray. I had a 5k player vs me in mid which just wouldnt contest me because there was a lvl 1 acid spray in his way, which literally deals close to 0 dmg.

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                                  no dota in dubai

                                    Then there are 3k mids who underestimate a lvl 4 acid and casually walks in thinking I wont hit him in the face for coming near lul