Tb used to be the top jungler that's why he did it. His illusions were nerfed so it's not nearly as good now. They used to only take 300% dmg so they could tank easily then they got nerfed to 425%, then buffed to 400. Still too much to tank lvl 1.
I used to jungle tb too. You could come out of jungle at 10 mins with yasha and Aquila and bots
More people should pick Zeus I guess. Also Timbersaw is one of the better heroes against him as well, not sure how he is doing so well when Timber is also so popular. Dragon Lance really really helped the hero though.
They give him free farm in safelane and then cry later when he gets farmed. These people dont even want a carry to do anything after farming dragon lance and manta. They wanna make him the new anti mage, a hero who cant even fight the heroes he's supposed to counter(int heroes) if they get farmed. Tb wont be able to fight other right clickers or nukers.
i played the hero for fist time in months, on someone else's computer and with some else mouse than i'm used to playing with
and we dumpstered enemy team so i think that the hero is broken LUL
cant say the hero isnt broken, but his counters are far more broken than he is. Sadly the 'pros' refuse to pick them + recent nerfs to lion have allowed this hero to shine.
@Achilles
I like how you came here seeking attention they were about who i beat because of that guy calling me a normal skill player, they werent for you. Who cares if you care?
I wasnt seeking attention. Im just usually done reading what you have to say after the first post is all. No offense really, its just most of the time your posts are full of decent info on the first one, then it bleeds into "im not what my mmr says im over 12000." i luh you bro.
i didnt say im over 12000 mmr. It bleeds into that cause of retards saying shit like "you know nothing, your games mean nothing cause you are normal skill" even tho they themselves dont even have a single game on the hero(es).
Either way, give your meaningful advice and tell everyone youre better than everyone except zoa all in one post so we dont have to skip down half a page all the time.
Or keep doing what youre doing. Ill stop stressing about it
^ you know nothing about terrorblade as everyone can See on the fact your still NORMAL SKILL After 1400 games.
@Achilles how would you have reacted to this?
So I just played a TB game. We lose quite bad, and people started to flame+blame me and questioning, "Dragon Lance on TB? " , "lol noob", "report tb", "tb so useless", "why dragon lance? buy diffusal noob" (I bought when the game was about to end lul) , and much more with philipino language. So in that game particular game is Diffusal more worth it than dragon lance? or we were just shit. (oh i played mid tb against timbersaw lul)
All those dire tower lose was because of our team early push but then, they started taking fight without me and/or bad positioning and lose and keep doing that till they look at my item and flame me.
Well i played TB once pumping one hell of tower damage... Pulled an ultra when the enemy ancient fell..
I noticed his Damage to enemy heroes is just so painful... Does that deserve a nerf? (Just asking no offense)
He has Decent damage late game but his manfighting has been nerfed in 6.85. Back in 6.84 you could kill a six slotted pa without using your meta or illus or even sunder if you used your slow and just right click on her. His damage as well as armor are outclassed by sven, he doesnt have the fastest attack speed. People just keep buying aura items/radiance vs him which are terrible against him. His slow gives him a free radiance/vlads/assault aura. His damage is currently the only thing that makes him a late gamer since the enemy team can buy linkens/lotus for him.
I don't think I'd ever build diffusal on tb, he needs hp. You didn't get skadi which is pretty much core on tb too. Bkb pickup makes sense given the opponents but I hate having to get it on TB. Problem is they counter picked you hard with lion and timber, and shotgun morph can 1 shot you too.
I don't think I'd ever build diffusal on tb, he needs hp. You didn't get skadi which is pretty much core on tb too. Bkb pickup makes sense given the opponents but I hate having to get it on TB. Problem is they counter picked you hard with lion and timber, and shotgun morph can 1 shot you too.
morph in late game cant one shot anything he deals about 2k+ damage and thats only if you dont use your manta when he uses ethereal, you have to act fast against morph. Diffusal is a counter to ethereal and its a situational pickup. Bkb is the best item you can get on tb since disablers and nukers rek him. The only time you shouldnt get a diffusal on tb when up against heroes that get countered by diffusal is when someone else gets one. You can get both skadi and diffusal now since diffusal hasnt been a uam for a long time. Your build could be like travels, manta, skadi, diffusal, bkb, satanic/mkb/butterfly
Dont buy diff guys, 3k gold is not worth for the best item in the game, also is really bad vs timber and morph, who on the other hand somehow counter tb. huh?
Bkb is core on the hero and its not as bad as people think it is. Like i said bkb helps vs nukers and disablers and is core on the hero. It even helps vs faceless void since bash damage is magical and he wont get bonus damage. Enchantress untouchable is countered by bkb, spectre is completely countered by bkb and so on.
Timber kinda counters tb, morph doesnt unless he's really ahead in farm. Timber's presence in a teamfight can ruin tb's day, and he is good vs tb in lane before 6.
there werent many tb players back then
Nerfs to dragon lance should be more than enough to balance him.
I forgot to mention et as a viable tb counter as long as his teammates dont fuck up his ult. To reduce a 50 armor hero to 0 feelsgoodman.
They already nerfed dragon lance, I'd hate to see it get nerfed more just cus of one hero, to the point it's not good on any other heroes.
WutFace Dragon Lance is one of the best items in the game right now it deserves a nerf.
I pretty much only play melee heros so I missing out on all the dragon lance goodness
Matrice used to stomp pubs with TB jungle, so I would take what he says to heart.
Also, cant you just pick lion + 1 and kill TB whenever you have ulti up?
Rtz just got 9k by spamming tb
Tb used to be the top jungler that's why he did it. His illusions were nerfed so it's not nearly as good now. They used to only take 300% dmg so they could tank easily then they got nerfed to 425%, then buffed to 400. Still too much to tank lvl 1.
I used to jungle tb too. You could come out of jungle at 10 mins with yasha and Aquila and bots
and i'd hate to see a hero nerfed just cause of the addition of one item. What more can they do to him?
More people should pick Zeus I guess. Also Timbersaw is one of the better heroes against him as well, not sure how he is doing so well when Timber is also so popular. Dragon Lance really really helped the hero though.
They give him free farm in safelane and then cry later when he gets farmed. These people dont even want a carry to do anything after farming dragon lance and manta. They wanna make him the new anti mage, a hero who cant even fight the heroes he's supposed to counter(int heroes) if they get farmed. Tb wont be able to fight other right clickers or nukers.
i played the hero for fist time in months, on someone else's computer and with some else mouse than i'm used to playing with
and we dumpstered enemy team so i think that the hero is broken LUL
cant say the hero isnt broken, but his counters are far more broken than he is. Sadly the 'pros' refuse to pick them + recent nerfs to lion have allowed this hero to shine.
@isolated lamentation
In every thread you post between 3-5 replies in a row. They are all mostly about who you beat.
Can you just stop? We dont care.
Feel free to post replies in any thread you want, just edit them into 1 big post.
what nerfs?
isolated lamentation is an extremely impressive player
@hamon sorry i'm sleepy i was gonna type invoker but i typed lion instead.
oh i thought i missed 688b or something
@Achilles
I like how you came here seeking attention they were about who i beat because of that guy calling me a normal skill player, they werent for you. Who cares if you care?
I wasnt seeking attention. Im just usually done reading what you have to say after the first post is all. No offense really, its just most of the time your posts are full of decent info on the first one, then it bleeds into "im not what my mmr says im over 12000." i luh you bro.
i didnt say im over 12000 mmr. It bleeds into that cause of retards saying shit like "you know nothing, your games mean nothing cause you are normal skill" even tho they themselves dont even have a single game on the hero(es).
Either way, give your meaningful advice and tell everyone youre better than everyone except zoa all in one post so we dont have to skip down half a page all the time.
Or keep doing what youre doing. Ill stop stressing about it
I never said i wasnt better than zoa, I only said he's the only 6k mid i lost to once :p.
May all your hits be crits on your next game.
but but i dont buy crits...
^ you know nothing about terrorblade as everyone can See on the fact your still NORMAL SKILL After 1400 games.
@Achilles how would you have reacted to this?
So I just played a TB game. We lose quite bad, and people started to flame+blame me and questioning, "Dragon Lance on TB? " , "lol noob", "report tb", "tb so useless", "why dragon lance? buy diffusal noob" (I bought when the game was about to end lul) , and much more with philipino language. So in that game particular game is Diffusal more worth it than dragon lance? or we were just shit. (oh i played mid tb against timbersaw lul)
All those dire tower lose was because of our team early push but then, they started taking fight without me and/or bad positioning and lose and keep doing that till they look at my item and flame me.
Something short, sweet, and in 1 single post i reckon
Somehow all games isolated lamentation wins vs 6k guys are played in Dubai.
@Eddy Grant yea and?
Well i played TB once pumping one hell of tower damage... Pulled an ultra when the enemy ancient fell..
I noticed his Damage to enemy heroes is just so painful... Does that deserve a nerf? (Just asking no offense)
He has Decent damage late game but his manfighting has been nerfed in 6.85. Back in 6.84 you could kill a six slotted pa without using your meta or illus or even sunder if you used your slow and just right click on her. His damage as well as armor are outclassed by sven, he doesnt have the fastest attack speed. People just keep buying aura items/radiance vs him which are terrible against him. His slow gives him a free radiance/vlads/assault aura. His damage is currently the only thing that makes him a late gamer since the enemy team can buy linkens/lotus for him.
I don't think I'd ever build diffusal on tb, he needs hp. You didn't get skadi which is pretty much core on tb too. Bkb pickup makes sense given the opponents but I hate having to get it on TB. Problem is they counter picked you hard with lion and timber, and shotgun morph can 1 shot you too.
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morph in late game cant one shot anything he deals about 2k+ damage and thats only if you dont use your manta when he uses ethereal, you have to act fast against morph. Diffusal is a counter to ethereal and its a situational pickup. Bkb is the best item you can get on tb since disablers and nukers rek him. The only time you shouldnt get a diffusal on tb when up against heroes that get countered by diffusal is when someone else gets one. You can get both skadi and diffusal now since diffusal hasnt been a uam for a long time. Your build could be like travels, manta, skadi, diffusal, bkb, satanic/mkb/butterfly
Still would rather just not have to get bkb on any carry
i dont see how morph one shots you with manta
Dont buy diff guys, 3k gold is not worth for the best item in the game, also is really bad vs timber and morph, who on the other hand somehow counter tb. huh?
Kappa
What's with all dem hate on TB, Im just glad one of my favorite hero is teh shit right now.
Gotta love those games where you take a t1 in 7mins.
Feelsgoodman
Also lol at 1.4k tb games, keep up the super informative posts :DDDD
Shoutout to my senpais Matrice and Zenoth
I think best hero is one you comfortable playing with.
Bkb is core on the hero and its not as bad as people think it is. Like i said bkb helps vs nukers and disablers and is core on the hero. It even helps vs faceless void since bash damage is magical and he wont get bonus damage. Enchantress untouchable is countered by bkb, spectre is completely countered by bkb and so on.
Timber kinda counters tb, morph doesnt unless he's really ahead in farm. Timber's presence in a teamfight can ruin tb's day, and he is good vs tb in lane before 6.