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Fifurrugtjuijo

    obvious cheat here at 47:25 replay time/41:40 game time from puck camera when he ran with dagger from doom on lothar

    only low IQ halfbrains, trolls and haters will defend that one

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/200816608

    tyga

      ahahahahhahah

      Chris.

        you're bad and you should feel bad. read a bit about the mechanics, then consider if a maphack is possible once again.

        Fifurrugtjuijo

          @Grüner Samt

          I thought I mentioned those three groups that shouldnt speak ? ur in group one

          Ming (Zufälliger König)

            what cheat? at 46min, i only saw doom buying a divine then goes to rosh, then puck goes back to base and lina planted a sentry at top lane.

            what's so cheating about that?

            and after that, doom gets raped at mid and copter picked up divine.

            and i stopped watching

            so what's ur point?

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            Chris.

              Dude, you apparently have no idea of the doto2 mechanics. how does he maphack then? does he pm gabe and asks for the packages which he doesnt recieve in order to get sight?

              Fifurrugtjuijo

                Ming srry ur right to be exact its

                47:25 replay time
                41:40 game time

                bum farto

                  There is no such thing as a DotA2 Maphack. Sick of this starting just cause people don't understand the mechanics of the game or get out-played and instantly decide that it is a maphack because how can someone possibly be that good.

                  Ming (Zufälliger König)

                    i dont know, it could be gut feeling, happened to me lots of times, i just felt i have to run and so i ran, poof there's an invis dude there

                    and yeah, u can be fully aware of things around u. doom has an ac, when he comes , the ac debuff will show up so u can tell if hes closeby.

                    puck has very high awareness

                    +1 to that

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                    bum farto

                      Also, IDIOT OP!!! He has a fucking AC you fucking tool, it shows up on your buffs any no-brain idiot would realize go fucking do one you ignorant piece of shit.

                      Ming (Zufälliger König)

                        ^
                        chill, not many have high leveled awareness, i just attained it recently after so many years of playing :P

                        bum farto

                          Getting so sick of crybabies on dotabuff, people complaining about balance and MM cause they get out-played cause they are dumb as shit, I am quite passive usually but seriously had enough of this majority ignorant community.

                          Ming (Zufälliger König)

                            ^
                            best example yesterday.
                            WISP Y U NO WARD, WISP Y U NO SUPPORT, IM LAGGING I CANT PLAY

                            hahahah , i laughed quite some. he has like 200+ ping and im playing at 380ms without complaining lol

                            Chris.

                              I think he is a member of group 1 to which he refers in his first post.

                              bum farto

                                @Ming

                                Yeah well, that is the IO guy who posted earlier. I do feel for him as he does want to play with us but his ping won't let him too much. Did we even win that game?

                                You know you can get the IP of the server from the console and tunnel it, that sometimes helps the ping or package loss at least.

                                CC

                                  U can't maphack in dota 2

                                  Monkeh

                                    Ahahaha, someone now feels a little bit silly.

                                    Sentenza

                                      It is a bug in Dota 2 that auras are active on invisible units:
                                      http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=25712

                                      In DotA only Radiance Aura is active on invisible units.
                                      http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261793

                                      OT: You cannot maphack in Dota 2.

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                                      Fifurrugtjuijo

                                        @up
                                        ahahaha not.
                                        every game on steam is hacked ppl hack in team fortress people hack on every call of duty(yeah steam too), even blizzard starcraft 2 has maphackers...theres no game that cant be hacked and yet all of you morons think that some magic way dota2 is special and free of it ??
                                        grow up fanboys
                                        gimme one reason whygame by some valve cant be hacked ?
                                        does they have technology thats 50years ahead ? doubt it

                                        Ming (Zufälliger König)

                                          @tna
                                          how do u tunnel?

                                          I come from the dark

                                            Another proof that only retards have <50% winrate in dota 2.

                                            Monkeh

                                              How about accepting he saw the de buff from the ac and got out of town. Simpler and more rational explanation wouldn't you say?

                                              Sentenza

                                                @Bad to the bone:
                                                So you think at least 3 out of 8 of the posters are retards in this thread?

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                                                Monkeh

                                                  Self proclaimed retard here o/

                                                  Vaikiss`742.

                                                    k lol

                                                    Chris.

                                                      @Smierdzoncy

                                                      Read a bit about the system valve is distributing the packages including the informations on who is who. Prolly it is hackable, but then the hacker would have to do the following things.
                                                      Find the IPs of one of the enemys players, hash the traffic ongoing to that player, analyse it and then somehow feed his dota with the packageinformations of that certain player.
                                                      It might be doable, but it would be quite a hard work.

                                                      Fakovnik

                                                        lol, epic fail

                                                        bum farto

                                                          They don't have tech 50 years ahead cause well we live in the now, but neither do game crackers who refuse to play a fair game.

                                                          We all live in the now and steams anti cheat system is constantly being updated and is among the safest to play on. No system is fool proof but Valve have enough going for them that when a game is cracked they would be able to catch on and kill the root issue.

                                                          It is an open system so there is some modifications you can make to help give you an edge but nothing that would demean the integral DotA2 gaming architecture.

                                                          "Every game on steam is hacked" I am going to give you a couple minutes just to retract your stupidity before the entire dotabuff community has a go at you.

                                                          There are countless games that cannot be hacked and anything you find on youtube or some file sharing site is nonsense most of the posts are bot games or in house where people parade some troll bug or mod they have found that only works out of the live platform or in UAT.

                                                          To reinstate this travisty of an OP, there is no "maphack" for DotA2 not to say that there may not oneday be one but when the time comes I am sure Valve will catch on and nip it quickly.

                                                          This is just an instance of someone playing dota2 at an admirable level of alertness and congrats to him for infuriating you so much as to post something so fool-hardy and outright lunatic.

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                                                          bum farto

                                                            ALL DOTA2 DATA IS SERVER BASED AND NOT CLIENT BASED!!

                                                            THERE IS NO WAY TO CHEAT!!

                                                            Chris.

                                                              @TnA.Havoc there is one, i stated it, yet i highly doubt there is anyone who is able to do that interested in doing it for a game.

                                                              CC

                                                                The game would finish before u even finish hacking

                                                                bum farto

                                                                  What you are talking about is likened to packet sniffing or a similar process as all of the data would be coming straight from the server.

                                                                  How you would even begin would take too long for any sort of hack to either work or be practical. The Valve Anti Cheat system also picks up on things like this and it would result in an account ban, I would honestly admire the person who manages to do this.

                                                                  Problems with a possible hack:

                                                                  Hash/Packet sniffing takes time and as soon as you were to connect you would have to set it off as the hash strings would be different presumably each time. By the time you had all you needed to get some sort of UI based hack going the game would be well underway and you might even face a DC or even a VAC ban should the system pick up on something like this.

                                                                  @Grüner Samt I do agree with you on both fronts, yes it is possible and yes, any script bunny or veteran coder would neither have the time to do this or have a practical lasting solution.

                                                                  If you knew how to do this, wouldn't you want to put knowledge of that extent to maybe even bigger things?

                                                                  Penis Monkey

                                                                    can't believe i actually wasted my time trying to find that in your game

                                                                    Ming (Zufälliger König)

                                                                      lol

                                                                      Relentless

                                                                        A real maphack is just not possible with this system. You could still have a spy on the other team or someone watching the game tell you things during a pause...but there is no way to maphack. The information you need to steal can't be stolen because it does not exist.

                                                                        In dota 1 the fogged part of the map was merely hidden, it was still sent to you. In dota 2 you never get it. Even if somehow magically you could get it..."somehow feed his dota with the packageinformations of that certain player." This part would still make it impossible. You nearly have to write a new version of dota 2 and update it every patch.

                                                                        The matchmaking system makes the spy situation extremely unlikely unless you are in a private game. People can watch a livestream on another screen during a pause longer than 2 min...but that is the only way to get maphack type information. In tournaments even that is precluded by the delay being extended to 6 min.

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                                                                        Ming (Zufälliger König)

                                                                          ^
                                                                          but casters get live view, so the only way to maphack? get someone in the casters slot, play a private game and the caster feeds u info

                                                                          Pandamonium(You Died)

                                                                            Casters get delay too

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                                                                              this thread's so fucking god awful

                                                                              Mason

                                                                                ya it's liek this thread is = to ur dota skill

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                                                                                  blue valentine's a great movie and you're retarded if you dont think so

                                                                                  packet canceled

                                                                                    more liek dis thread is = yan's dota skill