General DiscussionBest counter pick

4 dendi or singsing in your team

only god can save you at that point
on a srs note tanky lineups with slows and disables are op as fuck

So is this CM? I'm assuming a trenchy all-pick

Shadow Demon
Lina
Phantom Lancer
Shadow Fiend
Dark seer

They are 4 melee + wisp, is that hard to counter them? Pick a bane, eventually a razor and whatever anti-melee heroes you can think of (sand king, clock, some ranged orb walkers etc)

Agreed OD would be decent in melting wisp lone Druid and SB

dark seer combined with an OD is pretty good

here is example match:

http://dotabuff.com/matches/339952288

i watched this game. was close but radiant made several bad decisions. but stil dat tank lineup seems overly sturdy to kill even if they fight in middle of wall

That reminded me of a Timbersaw DK Treant and Abaddon line-up by Quantic. They raped so hard as well.

Timber rapes every str hero.

Lifestealer comes to mind. He is weak against ursa, but he can lane really well solo against melee only (if that melee isn't timber). And if properly farmed, he can take on an ursa if his team helps. Another idea: Tiny.

Tiny advantages:
1.) Can nuke away wisp swiftly
2.) Adds a stun (to help deal with ursa + stop barathrom charge + is always good to have a stun)
3.) his passive would work on 4/5 heroes. Ursa killing you? Nope, he is killing himself. Stunned, dead.

So I would recommend Tiny bottom farm and LS mid. Top could be weaver since their lineup has no disables and sucks fucking penis. Then get 2 supports or a support and a jungle. You're good to go. 90% win rate.

Timbersaw is a good anti-tank hero

This lineup doesn't have good anti split, so Tinker and Prophet are good choices
But Prophet has to play well since SB counters him badly

jakiro > all of them

^ legit pick jakiro miss icepath while enemy with baras aura and rabid ld+bear eat your teammates :D i forgot about ms bonus from ios link

jakiro is the best hero out there atm, dont even dare.

kiro+kotl+void > all of em

pick ls and play better

timber, naix, enigma

I wonder why nobody mentioned OmniKnight

I would pick my team like this:
- OmniKnight
- Slardar
- Vengeful Spirit
- Timbersaw
- Sniper/Weaver/Drow Ranger/Mirana

If you imprison the Abbadon then use your ult it will outright kill him as OD.

Good Options:

-Outworld
-Timbersaw
-Rubick
-Dark Seer
-Naix
-Elder Titan
-Weaver