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General Discussionhow to win in ranked?

how to win in ranked? in General Discussion
Mr.Chaos

    So basically started with 4950 and now im 4550-4600.Pls tell me

    MadBeast

      You have 4500 because the game don't calculate correctly mmr for players with low number of games, you will probably go down to 2k.

      Mr.Chaos

        seriuos?

        eXcel

          You only really play Slark, he's been nerfed. Cry with Bogi. Blindfold each other and toss each other off.

          You'll see similar crying threads from Bogi too.

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          Wave

            "You have 4500 because the game don't calculate correctly mmr for players with low number of game"

            except it does

            Mr.Chaos

              i saw your winrate i stoped taking your commend seriuosly

              Jerster

                wait for the other team to pick so you can counter or just pick heroes you are comfortable with and are good with the heroes your team mates pick. always make good choices and never rage at your team mates, people always rage at their team and wonder why they can't play as well as you can, Think about it, if you got raged on, wouldn't you make more mistakes then usual cuz you can feel like your the issue on the team? so always have a positive mood, always think there is a chance, if you see the enemy team have nottin but magic heroes that go dagon and your very far behind in kills and towers, but you have 3 stronger late game cores, never give up, there is always a chance, make sure u get every creep kill u possibly can and avoid getting killed / picked off. lots of people dont understand the importance of positioning of late game, at 40+ min mark, your positioning is very crucial, 1 mistake can throw you off the game and maybe even cost you a buyback which is very valuable this patch. people don't understand that if theirs a tier 2 tower at mid and the enemy team is committed to pushing down that tower and getting the rax next, they feel as if that teir 2 tower is very important that they must fight near that tower, That is very wrong and that is how people lose, they either lose 1 - 2 heroes because of players staying / walking around the back of the tier 2 tower, this is what the enemy wants so they can easily get rax. your whole team must stay near the tier 3 tower and abandon it and save the glyph for the t3 or rax is much better than using it on the tier 2 tower. now what i love to do that throws the enemy team off is saving the glyph till the t3 tower has about a few hp left, this makes them want to stay cuz they want to finish it (unless they have necrobook off course), while this happen the initiator like earth shaker or magnus comes in and punish them for getting of guard. this is one way of of starting the fight. Another one way is for you to wait for them to "throw" now this won't happen that much in a high ranked game, but there will almost always be that 1 person on the enemy team that thinks he can solo your team, if he passes your tier 4 towers, thats when you can punish him and kill him, the other team will start to "help" him but the other 3 will probably ignore and just focus the tower. if you can get 3 of their heroes and protect the tower, you will have a greater chance of winning the game, but the "rambo" player might just stop diving and continue objective. i can write more and more but i actully have errands to do and i ran out of time.

                also, i just recently had a game where all my teamates just Gave up, because the other team had much hardcore cores than us and we couldn't do anything about it since we where magic damage and not right click, i actually tried my best to call shots such as go as 5 or, pick that guy off, or b and such. it was a great feeling and you should try that :D
                here is the game
                http://dotabuff.com/matches/549741496
                you really dont have to look at the whole game, just look at the hero picks, ignore the kda, and just think about it like this, if all heros/players had the same skill level (which we all did in my opinion) which team would win?
                i actually now believe that the team with the most positive feelings will truly win.
                so my post in a nutshell, stay happy, stay calm, learn from mistakes and think how can you play it out better. there will always be a way!

                Neme

                  Sigh, so much wall of text. Stop pickig slark, pick suporters, roam and win game. Easy as fuck

                  Mr.Chaos

                    http://dotabuff.com/players/158385046 So basically i figured out that this acc is cursed and there is no way to win a fcking game:)

                    Mr.Chaos

                      this year im planing to kill fuckking fat ass gaben shittard and that motherfucker who created this fucktarded mm

                      Mr.Chaos

                        peace

                        Soultrap

                          Just forget about your rating and play for team.

                          Mr.Chaos

                            impossible you see those fucktards playing you start doing mistakes yourself

                            Mr.Chaos

                              this trash game is not for me

                              eXcel

                                Your saw my WR and stopped taking me serious? I'm barely below you and only recently started to actually care so much, and have now gone a 10 ranked game win streak

                                n7k1

                                  dont worry, as soon as Valves Buisness Team realise they arent selling enough hats and active online users go to less, they will do whatever it takes to bring the "consumig and playing croud" back. Give it time, just need some more people getting discouraged and some moan on reddit and dev. dendi already suggesting closed brackets for "same minded".

                                  BenaoLifedancer

                                    you're clearly not as good as u think u are
                                    you'll prob end up in the mid 3k's

                                    Wink

                                      >Makes a smurf to get high rank
                                      >Starts losing after getting put nearly in 5k bracket
                                      >Still complains when the EXACT thing that is expected to happen, happens

                                      Dizzy

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                                        nuvole bianche

                                          "this year im planing to kill fuckking fat ass gaben shittard and that motherfucker who created this fucktarded mm" highlight of the thread

                                          salt enjoyer

                                            @KliManT I wouldn't start judging people to harshly verbally as you have gone to 50% in just over 160 games. How is that possible? Is smurfing a slark account really so hard?

                                            People have unrealistic expectations about what to expect when then smurf. You want 500+ easy games where you can build stupid items and hope to get away with it? No, the systems picked you out and put you in a bracket that is too high for you. You deserve to lose.

                                            Sorry but I am so sick of fucking smurf account morons whining up and down the forums cause the game is too hard for them because they can't go Dagon Brood or Shadow Blade Slarks and will end up remaking loads of accounts till they find some russian stack that has found a bug abuse they can use.

                                            Lets look at your first page of this account shall we...

                                            >In your last 20 games you have purchased Shadowblade 12 times. Good job, I see a 5K player right there.
                                            >Every Doom game you go Midas because Doom jungle is hard to farm with.
                                            >You went Vanguard on Viper.
                                            >Straight Heart on Doom because again utility and armor on Doom is overrated.
                                            >Shadowblade + Blink Dagger + Midas = New Legion Commander meta
                                            >Shadowblade on Mirana (Oh, god my sides)

                                            You basically from the looks of it were hoping for easy games and this is not what you are getting. How do you win a ranked game? By playing good, by buying the right items, by not assuming that you are better than everyone else and act like a fuck tard in game. You're bad, go into a game and picks a support, show some humility and team spirit and maybe you will win some god damn games.

                                            Your win rate sucks for a smurf, your KDA's sucks for a smurf, your playstyle blows hard on all kinds of levels. Work on your gameplay then you will actually start to win some games.

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                                            Mr.Chaos

                                              pls people just look at those games if you have spare time when every single time 1 , 2 or 3 people are throwing the fucking game

                                              Mr.Chaos

                                                plus when i played my first real ranked game i was matched against players who have near 6 k mm and i raped the shit out of them.But my fucking trash team fed as hell and we end up losing so i dont see where is the fucking prob flaming me here

                                                gwizdo

                                                  ı dont care mmr but ı really tired to seeing same heroes.slark mirana furion es.maybe we should go normal game.and its not about 3k 4k 4.5kmmr.people has 5.5k or more still chosing same heroes for mmr.dota players really stupid.

                                                  eXcel

                                                    17 lost out of the past 18. Ouch. Mad smurf is mad. Bad smurf is bad.

                                                    eXcel

                                                      'plus when i played my first real ranked game i was matched against players who have near 6 k mm and i raped the shit out of them.But my fucking trash team fed as hell and we end up losing so i dont see where is the fucking prob flaming me here'

                                                      http://dotabuff.com/matches/447541754

                                                      Looks like it.

                                                      Mr.Chaos

                                                        i meant no calibrating fucktard

                                                        Mr.Chaos

                                                          guiri youre a patheatic trash so stfu

                                                          Gustaphos

                                                            Yes pick lycan and just rat all day if you want to boost it up, then when you want to play something more.

                                                            Yeah Is this an account you created after your main didn't do too well on it during calibration?

                                                            Dizzy

                                                              idk how well lycan will work in 4.5k mmr people shouldnt be too retarded in 4.5k im pretty sure in 4.5k they would atleast gank him a few times in jungle and actually ward roshan and carry tp's and rotate wen he tries rat

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                                                              MadBeast

                                                                If OP randomed all his game, I could bet a lot of money that he would not get more than 2.5k rating. If the bet is 50:50 odds.

                                                                80% of his games are with slark who is completly op in this maj, probably as much as bristleback, as slark can just jump on anyone, one shot him and go away. Regen and repeat. Still OP has barely more than 50% wr. Then we can all wonder why he insults everyone in this thread, "fucktard...." get a girl OP.

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                                                                Mr.Chaos

                                                                  you imbred idiot this fucking acc is cursed.I played slark against way more skilled shittards that i get now and i would win.The problem is not in me its in every single fucktarded that i get in my team because fat gaben and his minions made a fucking antismurf shit sistem to get everyone to 50 perc.Its just that tryhards and stackers manage to win

                                                                  Dizzy

                                                                    u mad bruh?

                                                                    Gustaphos

                                                                      Yeah I figure why he's mad is he probably had another main account and got a 2k rating, practiced slark on it, then made a smurf account, got ranked high, now he's getting stuffed down where he belongs from his angry retorts to people.

                                                                      Badgers wall of text had some good info so a one liner going back to him indicates he probably:

                                                                      1. Screams at his teammates when they make mistakes
                                                                      2. Curses at them.
                                                                      3. Blames crap on them when obviously its not his fault (even though it probably is sometimes)
                                                                      4. When winning, probably is a poor sport about it

                                                                      Your thread started out nice and sweet in the title, but now I read some of your responses to people and don't feel like any help you will take, or any criticism and will flip every thing around to blame everyone else.

                                                                      Tough.

                                                                      Dizzy

                                                                        his win % in ranked games is like 20% >.<

                                                                        MadBeast

                                                                          Of course because he started with new players, remember that new players don't even know what items or spells do, how is it hard to win against them. It's always a win except when someone in your team feed to much one of their carry.

                                                                          Once I made a smurf to see how I had improved and barely played 10 games as it was too boring, in one of my game I went boot force staff and rapier with windranger, lost the rapier, and had time to revive and take the rapier. They didnt even know what the rapier do so they let it to the ground.

                                                                          Wave

                                                                            i thought op was bogidota LOL

                                                                            Dizzy

                                                                              there both retarded i can see how u would think that

                                                                              Everyone loves Chibi

                                                                                I did similiar stuff as this guy did. Had 3.5k solo mmr on my main, thought i'm a lot better then that and i created a smurf. Played few ez games, then the anti smutf detection picked me up and threw me in 5.5-6k bracket. I actually did play few good games there, but then i either started getting really bad players (like 0-5 first few min, then rage quit) or i performed under expectations.

                                                                                I dropped a lot, got unlucky at calibration (3wins, 7 loses, more then half loses were 20 min stomps due to overrated players), but it was a helpfull experience. In the end i got 3.8k solo mmr which i'm rising slowly and i the more i climb up, the better i feel surounded by players who know what they're doing.

                                                                                KliManT - if you think you are a lot higher then u actually are, you'll have to start playing the best you ever did to actually stop this long lose streaks. You're doing something very wrong, it's not all about your technical skill. Its about understanding of the game and when you learn how to counter different play styles, you'll climb up. Till then - enjoy your freefall with that attitude.

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                                                                                Wave

                                                                                  theres no way you got 5.5k after calibration when your main acc is 3.5k solo

                                                                                  prove it

                                                                                  Everyone loves Chibi

                                                                                    And btw - didnt Bogi have the same picture? Is this Bogi lol? :D

                                                                                    Everyone loves Chibi

                                                                                      "theres no way you got 5.5k after calibration when your main acc is 3.5k solo"

                                                                                      Lol. If i said that, then show me where i did. Firstly, i played only 15 solo ranked games alltogether on my main, so i dont know how precise my mmr is. Secondly - you have to play a certain number of games to actually play ranked. I tend to ask people whats their mmr sometimes in normal games (especially on smufs), so i did exactly that. When i played mmr calibration matches i was already around 4k.

                                                                                      Btw - this (N[A]tus Vincere - account below) is my other smurf i have only for fun. Played some games with 6k mmr people in normal and won with stomp. Lizzard and VG are both near 6k and i see them often playing with SingSing and other stream people. This of course doesnt prove anything, i just wanted to point out that anti smurf actually works, but it usually sends you too high and then major lose streaks follow.

                                                                                      http://dotabuff.com/matches/508834500

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                                                                                      Mr.Chaos

                                                                                        so obviously lycan wins games

                                                                                        EmptyJar

                                                                                          lol this player is a Lithuanian with down syndrome. Got matched against him quite a while ago and he was a terrible slark, can't even keep up his smurfed up mmr because he's plain bad. I actually wonder what his main acc is for quite some time.

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                                                                                          eXcel

                                                                                            yep. So fed up of trash like this. My favourite part is that they think their inflated stats are better then legit stats like mine. I'm sitting fine on 4.3k MMR, going up about 50 a day on average. This trasher smurfs to 5k and rapidly falls. Still thinks he's better than me.

                                                                                            Mr.Chaos

                                                                                              you both suck morans:D.Empty jar i raped you 1x1 sf half year ago you worthless piece of shit amd guiri youre just an ultimate noob who has 0 knowledge of this game

                                                                                              eXcel

                                                                                                ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Mad kid you're mad.

                                                                                                All you can play is Slark, and you're not even good enough at that to maintain your MMR.

                                                                                                Get over yourself. You suck.

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                                                                                                Mr.Chaos

                                                                                                  i can play every hero better that you you useless fuck

                                                                                                  eXcel

                                                                                                    hahahahahaha, show me any form of competitive play you've been in and i'll consider believing you.

                                                                                                    Or find 4 friends and we'll scrim... although I highly doubt you have 4 friends.

                                                                                                    Mr.Chaos

                                                                                                      bitches pls my rank is going up again hashtag road to 5k. Joke lel road to 6 k nabs