General DiscussionHow can Necrolyte be so ridiculously good in pubs and not usable at a...

Pls no, if they start winning with him he will get nerfed so pls no

^He needs a nerf dat aura range is ridiculous, and the heal that has no limit on amount of targets more annoying to play against than a DP

He'll get nerfed anyway. He has reached the forbidden 59 number, the place where nerfhammer takes effect, even if unwarranted.

Shut the fuck up guys

No.

Why u do dis

I am all for the nerfhammer but why isnt he used competativly as a support (greedy as phuck but still, VP tried brewmaster support just saying...), or as pushing mid instead of Pugna/DK etc?

The pro scene works in mysterious ways.

Please delete your comments so valve does not look at this under picked hero.

Thank you.

(I hate playing against Necro in early game!)

maybe the pro scene just never plays him so they don't realise his potential.

wasn't treant totally ignored until goblak started picking him in the ti3 qualifiers? plus maybe some other heroes. od + razor i think.

Pretty sure razor was popularized by Liquid.

I think its because he gets focus down, necro dies way faster than people thinks

Yeah his main weakness is that he can get focused down easily unless he has a large farm advantage from snowballing early. In pubs he usually doesn't get focused down as hard. I think it'd be interesting to see him played in a trilane v. trilane situation with levels in Heartstopper, but then he'd end up underleveled which is not good for Necro.

The only other position I could see him played is solo safelane against an offlaner that can't do much against him like Dark Seer. Mid if would work too if you can ensure a good matchup (or at least an even matchup).

I saw xboct playing him safe lane and it was awful

He is easy to gank early game. I think his aghs upgrade is super satisfying when game goes close and past the hour mark though.
He doesn't demolish mid, he's a very quiet hero in that regard. Pros pick disable and mobility more often than they do stand in one spot and periodically jizz spirits.
Still, once you get to that 60 minute game, that aghs will surely make the game end in your favor. He's like the be-all end-all of inevitability.

I think we will see him more if the 4 protect 1 meta comes back. Now since teams usually go for multiple midgame carries instead of going all-in on one hard carry the Necro Aghs upgrade is kinda underwhelming since the ability to block buyback on one of their core heros is less valuable than blocking buyback on the carry that they went all-in on. An Aghs kill on the carry in a 4 protect 1 strategy is pretty much GG if it's past 45 minutes. One smoke gank can win the game.

I think they should play him like a pugna

How can he be played like Pugna? He doesn't have any skills that damage towers... Sure he can nuke the waves but once he gets to the tower he can't do much.

well i think that he isnt picked mainly because early game(until he gets his cores) he is super squishy. In pubs no one is going to focus a necrolyte. So in the long fights he wins easily by sustaining his mates. Also silence screws him bad(yeah doom i am looking at you). If he gets at least aghs he can become a monster but when we look at the competitive postions he doesn't seem to fit in any of em.

Hard carry-no
Mid- maybe but the gank potential is low. Rune control is also shitty.
Offlane- he can sustain himself but he can't farm easily, and if he faces an aggresive trilane with stuns he is practically food
Support - the best situation , although the gold income will be low and thus he wont have enough items to be relevant
Hard support- no. Necro's protential is wasted if it's played as a hard support

they do use necro, mostly as counter to bb! he will also be picked more the moment they introduce brood into competitive games

Husk ult, then Necro ult with aghs is an instant kill on any hero even with like 5k lp.
It is one of my favorite combos vs any beefy tank.

i fucking hate this hero, his passive is so annoying. playing against him mid is torture. the range is ridiculous.

necro is also really strong in pubs because they tend to stretch the match 2x longer than it needs to be. Put a agh on him and you can win a match because of how powerful buyback is late game. Competitive teams have more organization to avoid that situation..........pubs dont.

I think it's also mobility. How often do pros pick like sven or naix or sniper? Heroes you can kite and/or gank don't get picked much.