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General DiscussionWorst aghanim scepter upgrade?

Worst aghanim scepter upgrade? in General Discussion
Kiffydude

    Outworld Devourer with scepter upgrades ulti from 10x to 11x ? It's not even worth the cash . Even if your intelligence difference is 100 more than the enemy , without scepter=1000dmg ,with scepter=1100.Just adds 100 damage to it.
    I know how the ulti works and how strong it is , but the aghanim scepter upgrade sucks.

    Pilot

      Well, what about Puck?

      Hopeless

        Tied between puck and OD.

        iphone....wow

          how about skywrath? only 0 cd dude, still 800 mana spend
          such pity

          Flat is Justice!

            best agh holder = riki

            +hp op

            "TheKid belowMeIs an ass"...

              dazzle. pointless

              Z__

                ^
                Bloodstone and Euls are even more pointless on dazzle.

                sano

                  the most overrated one is definitely invoker

                  srsly guys stop going aghs on invoker every time if you want to leave 3.5k bracket

                  Pilot

                    I don't think it's pointless on dazzle, but there are way more items on the list that can be more useful.

                    @Olek. I disagree with you on the euls. Euls is situational and can be used to great effect.

                    @Ryfee It can be good if you have enough farm. It just blows people up. (I guess it'd work better if you have an OD in your team).

                    Z__

                      It might be useful against certain heroes you want to kite (e.g. lycan, void), but most people get it for the mana regen which is not needed on dazzle at all. His mana pool is big enough to heal, grave and slow multiple times in a fight. Aghs is way more useful since it makes you tankier (you're a squishy high priority target) while euls doesn't.
                      http://dotabuff.com/matches/740247405
                      http://dotabuff.com/matches/736319263
                      In those matches there's not a single hero that can burst your team so hard that forces you to build an euls.

                      Pilot

                        I don't know. It still has it's utility. Personally, when I play Dazzle, I only get it for heroes I need to kite (like what you said). But if the euls synergizes with the skills of your teammates then why not.

                        I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying it's situational. And I'm not looking at Chico's specific matches because he may have found a use for them. (e.g. Dodging alch stun)

                        Kiffydude

                          I think Puck with aghanim works quite well if you're teaming with a good Magnus. COIL+REVERSE POLARITY+SKEWER , deals ton of damage and leaves your enemies crippled. Haven't mentioned the damage dealt by your allies

                          Luxalpa, Primal Calamity

                            ^ Or you could just buy a shivas guard and do even more damage and profit from the aura/slow as well.

                            gwizdo

                              My brother always buy specter.Every hero if hero has specter.Even pugna.Pugna?

                              iphone....wow

                                Pugna scepter good dude, can do fountain kill
                                But Skywrath? Only change its cooldown, no damage plus or mana decrease -_-
                                while this hero is very need mana regen or big mana pool

                                Quick maffs

                                  Aghs upgrade for pugna is really good

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