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General DiscussionTemplar Assassin - what are her counters?

Templar Assassin - what are her counters? in General Discussion
TUPUCK

    very annoying to deal with once she snowballs with blink

    What are her counters?

    and a question about her shield.
    can she still blink away even though she doesn't receive damage under the effect of her shield, forcing her blink on cooldown?

    Lavine

      Venomancer and then dust, dust, dust.

      No she cant blink away if she has been attacked - even if she doesnt take damage.

      Fay

        viperino

        Jʌy Δshʙoʁnɘ

          Viper. Pudge.

          Quick maffs

            Dark Seer

            Greatlubu

              Huskars OK but she will shit all over his face if hes not careful id call that just a wash dont ult her lol she will meld strike and probably just insta kill you

              Wink

                Huskar, Viper, Veno, Batrider, Dark Seer, Pudge, any silence or DoT (that means OoV is amazing against her).

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                Trodlabundin

                  ^Orb of venom damage doesn't remove refraction...

                  I'm surprised nobody said Ember Spirit.

                  Wink

                    wut

                    i swear i just heard some casters talking about it a few months ago

                    [Lk].Zano

                      Tested it once. OoV just slows her, which she hates, but is not what you are looking for, most likely...don't you think it would be pretty stupid if one of her biggest strenghts was countered by a 275 gold item?

                      Killjoy

                        Any hero with DoT and some form of AoE can stop her.

                        Wink

                          @zano
                          Bloodseeker is countered by a 135 gold item

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                          sleave

                            slark, his dark pact damages in separate instances which means one Q = no refraction

                            ICE SKULL

                              viper, venom, dazzle, doom, anything that can build up a lot of armor

                              [Lk].Zano

                                @wink

                                Any Bloodseeker with half a brain won't waste his ulti on someone without an ally who can cancel channels close by...

                                Wink

                                  any player with half a brain wont pick bloodseeker (excluding 9000000000000000 mmr pubstars who could rape even with offlane crystal maiden)

                                  [Lk].Zano

                                    He was my first daily hero challenge ;_;

                                    Satellizer

                                      orb of venom doesn't work (not enough damage to remove refraction)

                                      for solo mid: viper and venomancer

                                      Guts

                                        damage over time and fast attacks. Anything to break that refraction.

                                        jo~

                                          early 5 man with Dot

                                          Miku Plays

                                            poison brothers rapes templar :3

                                            salt enjoyer

                                              QoP's first skill while not as amazing as vipers passive and first vs TA is still good enough to hamper her out of the lane.

                                              Trodlabundin

                                                Bloodseeker only gets countered by 135 gold in shitbracket though...

                                                salt enjoyer

                                                  Yeah I build Euls on BS for either myself or TP cancellations

                                                  Zenoth

                                                    qop loses the matchup without sentry, and only has an advantage the first few levels.

                                                    Ples Mercy

                                                      mappo

                                                      Vanity  ツ

                                                        Viper, doom, venomancer, axe and dark seer obviously makes ta's life much harder. Pudge isn't really that good against ta because of his low armor, and he melts really easy.

                                                        TOC | Amanda Dermichknutscht

                                                          I would say Phoenix is the hardest counter to TA until she gets Bkb.

                                                          All 4 skills are dots per sec except Sunray which damages all 0.1s. You have a 25% MS slow and a insane AS slow.

                                                          Zenoth

                                                            ^ truth, the last time I lost a lane with ta was against phoenix

                                                            beyond

                                                              wink no wonder ur 3k <3

                                                              efix

                                                                huskar ain't no TA counter...

                                                                5k+ ranked http://dotabuff.com/matches/758564489
                                                                been 1v1 vs huskar mid, maxed meld with just one point in psy/refraction. started 2-3 shotting him by level 4

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                                                                Wink

                                                                  Dont play ta enough to know her mechanics Q.Q

                                                                  Trodlabundin

                                                                    ^excuses for being my lovely trashcan <3

                                                                    casual gamer

                                                                      "any player with half a brain wont pick bloodseeker"

                                                                      ok buddy ur good

                                                                      Dire Wolf

                                                                        Bloodseeker is fine, good ganker, you do realize if people tp out of lane every time you gank they're still spending gold on tps and not able to farm cus they're leaving? Most will panic tp to base as well, not another lane where they can farm. It's not the same as being countered by a 275g item you never rebuy. BS is a pretty strong mid right now, great counter to a lot of popular mids like OD, puck, storm, qop.

                                                                        I hate fighting TA but what about razor? Drain all her dmg, she can sit in that invis all she wants with no dmg. Then his Q ability should hit her twice to drop her shield, and his ult hits a lot.

                                                                        Greatlubu

                                                                          @VAN

                                                                          Yeah hes not a "hard counter"But he is viable to the standard skill build which is max refract its far from optimal. and like i said she can shit on his face as well

                                                                          p2d

                                                                            Do you have change for a dongerbill? [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]

                                                                            Ejdm

                                                                              i think best counter against her on mid is batrider

                                                                              NoDE.Zafoche

                                                                                viper windranger batrider veno meepo axe ogre etcetera

                                                                                salt enjoyer

                                                                                  Hey, so are we still doing that 1v1 you dodged cause you were "too tired"?

                                                                                  harvard graduate

                                                                                    As someone who plays TA a lot, I gotta say that the obvious counters are Viper and Venomancer. Slark also does pretty well (who'd have thought?) because his Dark Pact(? could be wrong on that, I mean the first skill) deals many small instances of damage. Also Ta cant do shit to him when he is in his ulti. More super annyoing heroes are the tanky ones that you can just never kill like Centaur or the ones that kite you like hell like QoP.
                                                                                    Someone earlier said that Ember counters TA. That is true to some degree but when TA gets more points into Meld than usual, his armor will go into the -4 -5 area reeeeally fast at which point he can be killed pretty easyily just by manning up and using stick charges.

                                                                                    MILNOR

                                                                                      Gyrocopter.

                                                                                      TUPUCK

                                                                                        Gee. What alotta response I have gotten. Thanks everyone.

                                                                                        Great community support.
                                                                                        (Yet so many trolls in-game)