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General DiscussionIs there something wrong with unranked?

Is there something wrong with unranked? in General Discussion
SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

    It honestly feels like Garena all over again.

    Other team full of smurfs (I'm guessing 4000-4500 players just judging by their inability to farm decently, let alone know how to position/teamfight) while I'm getting these players with 3000+ games that play like 3k mmr trash.

    It's another one of those "if u don't go mid = gg" type of scenarios.

    Wink

      lol, calling other people trash when you cant even win half your games on a smurf. fucking pathetic.

      BenaoLifedancer

        it is supposed to be

        SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

          wink i've got 1k+ rating over you retard LOL

          benao why should it be? unranked was OK before the ranked/unranked segregation

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          SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

            can someone who wants to discuss this question answer what i'm saying before more retards begin lugging in all their autism, thanks

            good god can't even discuss something on dotabuff without these dumb red herrings

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            Zenoth

              why are you so surprised about unranked lol

              sano

                maybe because all the decent players are on ranked?

                Wink

                  Why do I doubt that claim...

                  Hex Sigma

                    well get off of your high horse and maybe then you'll get decent answers

                    SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                      as far as i know there haven't been any algorithm changes in unranked, unless valve did some shady shit

                      reason i'm asking is that i'd just like to get in a casual game every now and then with 3k rated friends, and the fact that my allies somehow play worse than the 4500 retards i get on my other accounts when i play ranked is just absurd. do i need to go mid with naga siren or something just to win 1v5 every game lol...

                      and i highly doubt there "aren't enough players" playing unranked, just judging by the games i've played on various accounts, plenty of players stick to unranked. i've checked their dotabuffs and they almost never play ranked, so the player pool isn't barren

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                      SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                        i guess unless ur 3-5 stacking with people who are all over 5k, it's probably going to be as bad as LPQ.

                        i'm thinking i should make an account and feed on it on purpose to get 3k after the first 10 unranked games, and go play with them afterwards. otherwise it's like having to lift a fucking walrus every single game. i barely concealed my flaming cuz all 3 games they manage to lose their lanes horribly even against subpar 4000-4500 trashcans.

                        i'm not fucking 6k, i can't carry a bunch of 3500's against 4k's lmfao.

                        the entire point of UNRANKED is to play for fun, not to experience the same 1v5 bullshit that we're free to do in solo queue (at least this problem doesn't happen too frequently at 5k)

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                        Satellizer

                          because of valve's anti-smurf system.

                          let's say you went 40-0 as voker in a normal bracket unranked game
                          the system detects you as a smurf, and sets you in a higher bracket
                          but you can't handle the higher bracket and you start feeding.

                          and here's the problem: you need to feed A LOT to go back to the normal bracket.

                          pretty good against smurfs, but ends up messing up some games.

                          [Lk].Zano

                            There's a little thing called the daily hero challenge going on for people with compendiums. There are many people getting heroes they can't really play, but still do so to complete the challenge and increase their compendium level. Guess where they are going to. Of course, that's not the whole reason, but it sure helps to increase the amount of iffy play in unranked.

                            Then, there is the whole "meh, it's unranked, so I may as well do some theorycrafting (most times stupid shit) because my mmr is not affected" attitude that a lot of people have and think it's "playing casually".

                            Edit: What Sat said above me as well.

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                            sano

                              nowadays unranked has 100% scrub playerbase

                              for example just take a look at this satellizer guy

                              Sir

                                listen to sateliz he knows whats up

                                Satellizer

                                  @fgt du plus fort

                                  SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                                    ^ LOL.

                                    Zano those are also possibilities, but I'm not used to seeing such shitstains in my games. I just got a lion in unranked who maxed out mana drain first (I gave up after that point). The people I get in solo ranked at 4.7k (other account) are already pretty bad, this is like a whole new level of awful. Not a single dust/ward against Mirana till like 40 minutes in (at least 4k players buy detection), these are things unfair bots will typically be able to execute but apparently it's beyond these players to do so.

                                    Anyways, all this QQ'ing in the past week or so has ultimately come to this:

                                    One of the funny things when you play dota long enough, and play through different skill brackets (I was likely a 4000~ player when I started dota 2 slightly over a year ago) is that you start to think: "god how can anyone be worse than this guy?"

                                    And then the standard of non-retardation seems to drop even lower every single time just because you end up finding that worse player.

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                                    Trodlabundin

                                      buuut...

                                      Why do you go play unranked and complain about unranked on dotabuff? I highly doubt people aren't aware of the shcittinessrubiness of unranked games, neither do they care.

                                      SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                                        i was playing with 3k friend, just for fun

                                        turns out to be anything BUT fun when ur safelane gets a 20 min vanguard on spectre and maxes out dispersion first.

                                        i don't understand why these players don't just uninstall the game, playing dota for them is like trying to major in mathematics and not even being able to pass multivariable calculus.

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                                        Zenoth

                                          ya but your enemies are always horrible too

                                          Hex Sigma

                                            ^that doesn't count...

                                            Fakovnik

                                              so ?
                                              it's normal that 3k are bad, and in normal mm.. casual 3k play,
                                              wtf do you want ?

                                              Socram

                                                He obviously wants Valve to reprogram the matchmaking system so that whenever he queues für an unranked match, his team's average MMR is about 2k higher.
                                                Seems like a legit request to me.