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General DiscussionI am so bad at Shadow Fiend.

I am so bad at Shadow Fiend. in General Discussion
-25dkp

    Like I can play Invoker and Puck and even Meepo fine but I suck at SF.

    I thought Eul's was the problem but it turns out this item has a decent winrate on him. My razes aren't perfect but I can generally land them all right.

    Or am I just unlucky because I got countered or had a bad-teammate for my recent SF games?

    arin

      You need to learn how to farm.

      Vaikiss`742.

        yeah same i can't seem to win with that hero at all ;/

        Giff me Wingman

          yeah vaikiss SF sucks dick. Just look at his piss poor stats.

          Vertoxity

            Play more games. Be patient. Hero needs a bit of a practice and you can't learn SF over night..

            -25dkp

              For Chen I literally read up on creeps' abilities and performed with him from game 1… Invoker didn't take more than 2 or 3 games. SF? Noooo idea

              Geckolimus

                I used to love SF but unfortunately come up with the conclusion that bar a 5 man stack this hero is not great compared to other viable heroes. Reason being SF needs the help of team mates to initiate and tank and protecting to be at its most effective; which means teamwork. And the concept of teamwork seems to be elusive at best in pub games. You will be a lot less disappointed when you pick heroes that can function independently of your team mates whom are most likely to be retarded due to Valve's distinguishably 'fair' match-making system.

                Regards
                Gecko

                Mandalorian

                  I bet i'm worse at naga then you are at SF. Especially with 500ms ping :D

                  chompzz

                    SF is so hard to stop - its you 100%

                    Sf is a solo killer - you dont need a team to kill anyone WTF (Gecko blammeerrrrr)

                    What distinguishes a good sf player and mediocre is his razing. you can vaporize enemy heroes but if you miss that one raze your done. You wont have the deeps to kill the heroes before they go through your measly hp pool.

                    The biggest thing that helped me with razing was knowing which raze to lead with.

                    On average you are gonna wanna lead with ur medium range nuke. This allows for you to land one close one or one far one guaranteed. You either skoot closer or they start running and you finish em off with the long range nuke.

                    In lane you typically want to play safe until you hit lvl 5. Then you can go for kills. Last hit and nuke the enemy at the same time for efficiency. Dont be scared to use ur mana for 1 last hit its worth it.

                    AT lvl 5 Start with a long range nuke to harass them a bit. When ur cd comes up get close and try to land a short range nuke. If they run hit medium then long cuz you know they will run in a str8 line. E Z KILL and most basic combo.

                    If they have a stun or slow they might not run. They might want to get in close and go for the kill - in this case lead with medium nuke.

                    MARLAN

                      > "can play meepo fine"

                      -25dkp

                        This is my ult account… I can play meepo fine as in farm with okay gpm and not feed with him. Not pro performance by any means. Thats why I said "fine" and not pro.

                        Well, maybe the sample size is too small, but fuck Eul's. The instant I stop building it I get a really good game on SF.

                        JackyBui

                          everyone now building eul on SF without knowing how it works.
                          to build a eul, u must skip midas - a good farming item on SF but wait, with the eul, u can farm FASTER.
                          +ms = faster farm
                          +int -> +mana -> more spam -> faster farm
                          +mana regen -> more spam -> faster farm

                          build eul -> raze raze raze tp raze raze raze tp and farm your ass off, not fucking cyclone and requiem.if u love to build eul on SF, go farm your ass off, then out farm the enemy team, then fuck them hard in the ass.if u wanna join fight, build mek.SF is a decent mek carrier, his manapool is just okay.

                          just kidding, i suck on SF

                          Vaikiss`742.

                            eul on sf seems like super waste he is rightclicker that has flashfarming and good laning potential

                            its like drow ranger without a slow but actually good at farming and roshing and so

                            Mekarazium
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                              Pom Pom 🍕

                                Eul is just the hipster shadow blade.

                                THICC BABY SHUM

                                  Euls tiny next meta Euls tiny cambo

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