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THICC BABY SHUM

    So I been picking ursa lately
    seems like a hero u pick to make lots of space after 7 min
    i go jungle then 5 to 6 min rosh depending how jungle goes
    my item build usually is morbit mask- boots- blink- phase boots- vlads- basher
    then after wards its bkb abysal or mkb what ever is needed
    would like to get some tips and tricks to improve my ursa as i believe there is always something to learn
    my ursa games http://www.dotabuff.com/players/18354783/matches?date=&hero=ursa&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=

    MOA KIKUCHI ASTRALIS

      think casual oov after you get rs (assuming not enough gold to complete phase immediately) is good. after phase is cool as well you just run at people. casual stick is good too in that regard
      think level 2 enrage at 11 is extremely overated feel like you should skill it at 14 imo.

      THICC BABY SHUM

        yah, sometimes i go for phase sometimes just boots and rush blink
        lvl 14 enrage does sound better as i wil get more dmg from maxing q for dmg and slow
        feels like lvl 2 fury swipe is ok for a while

        MOA KIKUCHI ASTRALIS

          also in the moonmeander guide for ursa jungle he recommended 1 pack tango 1 salve, but imo its better to go 2 packs of tango (8x)
          when you hit level 4/5 with mod you should have 1-2 tangoes remaining
          then you can eat the christmas tree while entering roshan which gives you 100+ hp buffer

          THICC BABY SHUM

            i go stout shield and tango
            never done or seen 8 tangos
            8 tangos works better?

            MOA KIKUCHI ASTRALIS

              um
              if stout shield and 4x tango works for you then go for it i guess? perhaps i havent being doing my chokes properly xd
              but from my experience you need at least 6 tangoes?

              video in reference was this anw
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK8sQltKdDw

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              THICC BABY SHUM

                with stout shield and 4 tangos i can get 900 gold and get morbit mask in my inventory with around 200 hp without going to base then get hp from ls

                StarLord

                  Fuck Ursa pick Pudge become a hooker.

                  THICC BABY SHUM

                    by time he used his salve he could had his morbit mask if he didnt buy salve ofc
                    i like how he cuts trees so he dsnt get attacked by 2 creeps at same time, i need to do that more.
                    I also attack move every time idk if that takes some time from neutrals from attacking me but it gets me closer to next camp as well as when im out of camp i can see incoming ganks.
                    also i max w over e, i go e w w e w roshan w q r < (after rosh lvls )

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                    Zenoth

                      ursa should be run mid

                      his Q is seriously fucking overpowered

                      MOA KIKUCHI ASTRALIS

                        oh ty ynit i learnt something new
                        got 4.27 rs in lobby

                        Vaikiss`742.

                          i highly doubt ursa could do anything mid vs conventional mid heroes of this mid

                          aka sniper/qop/sf/lina/ta/etc all of those heroes demolish any melee hero in mid without even trying to

                          amarin1492

                            Ursa is not good mid unless his opponent is melee.

                            Sniper is a huge problem for Ursa, especially if Sniper gets skadi.

                            I've recently been trying mask of madness instead of vlads on Ursa, and I've found it works pretty well in most situations.

                            saving private RTZ

                              For a hero that is anyway squishy and who can find a way around bkb not to many times I dont find it too good, but maybe im wrong.

                              you dknt wanna attack fast I early-midgame fights beyond overpowered. And anyway you should engage with W ul already so you will use W at least 2 times in a fight

                              amarin1492

                                ^ In a teamfight situation, mask can be risky if you get stunned or disabled. In a 1v1 situation, mask of madness is great. Although overpower has a short cooldown, it only lasts for 6 attacks. Usually 6 attacks is enough for squishy heroes, but when facing tanky heroes, MoM helps fill the gap between overpower cooldowns. The movespeed bonus (MoM + phase = 522 movespeed) is extremely useful for chasing down heroes and helps ursa get kills before he buys his blink.

                                However like most items in Dota, MoM is situational for Ursa. If enemy team has a lot of non-bkb piercing disables (for example, enemy has a lion and shadow shaman, etc), I might go bkb over mask.

                                If you're unsure what to turn your morbid mask into as Ursa, vlads is usually a safe bet unless your team has another hero who wants to build vlads.