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General DiscussionOctarine necro?

Octarine necro? in General Discussion
Andy

    First of all I didn't make this thread to have everyone tell me that he gets countered by glimmer, so if you were about to say that there's really no need.

    What do you think about octarine on necrophos? Like in theory this item seems stupidly good on him: Insanely low cooldown on his q, you heal even more if you hit someone with it, you heal of the heartstopper aura and if you get a kill with your ult the healing u get is stupidly high because sadist + the spell healing. It looks like the item was made for him, just cuz it basically does everything necro needs: It keeps u alive, gives u mana and you just let your aura and Deathpulse do the job. Also ultra low cooldown on your ulti.

    Maybe im just being stupid but for me it feels like this item is core on necro, just cuz its really good when you play vs lots of tanky heroes and thats kind of the only way necro is viable anyways.

    Thoughts?

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    Totentanz to The King: M ...

      It's obviously a good item, but no one plays Necro right now anyway.

      Rocket

        I thought it would be awesome on him but it felt pretty meh to me.

        your healing from your ult was already pretty awesome and by the time you have octarine, death pulse is fairly irrelevant.

        think i'd prefer all of shivas,aghs,hex & refresher over it.

        jo~

          ive had lots of success treads wand blademail soulbooster aghs octarine at 5k

          Nagaodoro

            @ Jo: what your skill build?

            Rocket

              tbf you seem to have had success with him in 6.84c regardless of your build!

              edit: jsut checked your octarine matches and it isn't the octarine that is winning the game for you - with one exception, you get it a couple of minutes before the end of the game.

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              jo~

                411 into max sadist if you are supressing the offlaner
                312 into max pulse max sadist if hes fighting back
                i play safelane necro

                Rocket

                  ? the majority of your recent necro games have been you in the offlane not safe!

                  Rocket

                    ah ok - my bad!

                    Luxon

                      I think you can't lifesteal from heartstopper

                      Mushi

                        If you can, standing in front of 5 enemies who are above 4k HP makes you immortal.

                        Soultrap

                          All heroes can benefit from Octarine Core, the only problem is expensive components.

                          Mushi

                            ^ Drow Ranger?

                            Kappa

                            Reese

                              IMO octarine is only good as 6th slot when you have a lot of actives (like blink, shivas, hex, bkb, travels)

                              Soultrap

                                @Mushi
                                Even Drow Ranger looks solid with Octarine Core + Radiance + Mjollnir + Manta.

                                Vaikiss`742.

                                  u forgot dagon eblade 5

                                  jo~

                                    i love the blademail octarine combo though

                                    Soultrap

                                      @Grind Master
                                      I decided it's a bit too much... but may work too.

                                      Dire Wolf

                                        "i play safelane necro"

                                        gl anyone getting that shit to work in 3k. I love necro safe lane, maybe he's not a tower destroying carry but he can wreck teams with farm and is fine safe lane but in pubs every necro pick is assumed to be support or at best mid, they will never let you farm. Even when I say I'm going to safelane necro they laugh at me call me noob and say he's support then pick carries.

                                        Reese

                                          ^ same with silencer, i have to go mid or i will be considered a support

                                          jo~

                                            yea my team was flaming me for picking it too
                                            well not to worry ancients necro on dire is absolute boss too dont let 2k redditors throw you off

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                                            Dire Wolf

                                              ancients necro works as well as any other jungler, I get like 10 min mek + brown boots and that's probably slow.

                                              Silencer carry is a little more iffy than necro carry though just cus he's not mobile or tanky so he can die very easy early. Necro is tank at least, but you are right, built right he's a badass, can do a ton of glaive dmg.

                                              Rocket

                                                ? ancients necro does not work as well as any other jungler! ok maybe if your definition is limited to the speed he can farm at if he's not contested but ancients necro is so crap in that its just one camp to ward and if you are ganked at 4-5mins you leave a big pile of almost dead ancients that they can probably farm.

                                                having said that, i would rather do that than support with him...

                                                jo~

                                                  dire ancients isnt easy to gank at all lol you have uphill vision and no one can clear your ancients at 5 min when its 3-4 stacked barring alchemist and templar
                                                  also unlike on radiant, you can see where the supports plant the ward so its impossible to block your camp
                                                  well that said i only do it when im smurfing/boosting cuz im too lazy to lane against them
                                                  http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1726823952
                                                  this is at 4k flat