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General DiscussionEarth Spirit is Better now then when he first came out.

Earth Spirit is Better now then when he first came out. in General Discussion
bilbyc0m

    Hey everyone just noticed that Earth Spirit having the stun for a kick means for stronger initiation and also better opportunity for pick offs. This just suits my play style better as missing the stone kicks is a rare occasion so kicking to stun. I think this is the strongest Earth Spirit, especially since he now scales better in the mid game with the re-scaled damage on stone kick.

    Last picking is 4 pussies

      There is no way in this world he is stronger now than when released.

      Strong still yes and should be in CM.

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        Riguma Borusu

          How the fuck is ES balanced? Venge has an ultimate that does a similar thing, except for, she puts herself in danger, it's got a way lower effective range, and it's a freakin' ultimate. Batrider is famous for taking people out of a group so that you fight 5vs4, well guess what, his freaking lasso is crap compared to ES' pull, also ES can do this without a blink AND forcestaff.

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          efextoide

            earth spirit on cm is a new game

            Rocket

              Yeah - cm where second pick team only has 1 first phase ban.

              Metallicize

                hmm man i am questioning your ability to detect good spells.
                insta stun from range is better than a projectile stun from range

                casual gamer

                  LMAO

                  Giff me Wingman

                    can't tell if rly stupid or troll

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                      casual gamer

                        did you ever even play against release earth spirit?

                        instant ranged stun + kicking people was retarded

                        literally nowhere on the map was safe, and the combo took 1 rock

                        and he had way more fucking rocks

                        Last picking is 4 pussies

                          We really saying ES pull > venge ult I mean I get how it can make venge devalued but at the same time....

                          Screw it no point trying to explain here.

                          Put the hero in CM and let's see how the bans do or don't come out I think you all would be surprised.

                          Last picking is 4 pussies

                            Also pretty sure at release earth spirit had the same rock count and remnant refresh rate as now but yes the dumbest person alive could do any position and dominate with pull being the stun.

                            matrice

                              That aoe dk's stun, with 900 (1000?) range, and more damage.

                              How can you even consider earth spirit being stronger now ??? Sure his agah is totally op, but if you didn't won 1v5 the game by 15 min mark with old one, you weren't knowing how to play earth spirit.
                              All he ned was lvl 3 to make a 100% safe, 100% accurate combo that send you to enemy tower when you are on your hill middle.

                              Hell even most of them were taking the rolling over the grip in offlane, cause they would literally win a 1v2 battle against the 2 support, thx to his nice stat and the insane as slow and ms slow.

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                                Welt aus Eis

                                  ヽ(◉◡◔)ノ i'm an ES picker and i have down syndrome ヽ(◉◡◔)ノ

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                                      Cursed

                                        stun, silence, escape, initiation, pull, push. Which hero has it all? Earth spirit.
                                        To make things worse all of his skill is AoE. The most OP hero in midgame.

                                        Cataphract

                                          But he still sucks

                                          Riguma Borusu

                                            ^that's because you are in Normal Skill. I have never seen a good ES player in Normal Skill, I have only seen those players own with ES when I've watched good players streaming and owning pubs, never in my own games.

                                            Pom Pom 🍕

                                              He's easier to play, but doesn't mean he's stronger. His grip is much slower and lower range and his damage early levels are worse so he can't solokill at level 3 as easily as before. Instant stun at 1400 range is also better than a rock flying at 1200 ms (even if it goes 2K range now). Now you can also even purge his high-damage ultimate (which is huge considering the damage it does and how easily it is to obtain a eul).

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