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General Discussionversion 7.00 invoker thoughts

version 7.00 invoker thoughts in General Discussion
MAKAVELI

    EMP damage changed from Pure to Magical
    EMP damage per mana burned increased from 50% to 60%
    Invoke is no longer an upgradeable ability.
    Invoke cooldown rescaled from 22/17/12/5 to 6
    Invoke mana cost rescaled from 20/40/60/80 to 60
    Invoke no longer consumes mana when only slot positions are updated.
    Invoke Scepter cooldown rescaled from 16/8/4/2 to 2
    Invoker no longer has a +6 Attribute Bonus ability at level 25.
    Deafening Blast is no longer automatically upgraded when Reagents are level 7.
    Forged Spirits no longer spawn multiple when Quas/Exort are level 4.
    Invoker no longer gains passive attributes when leveling Reagents.
    Active Exort instances damage bonus increased from 3/6/9/12/.. to 4/8/12/16/..
    Active Quas instances HP regen increased from 1/2/3/4/.. to 1.5/3/4.5/6/..

    rüm

      invoker imba talent tree + passive stat gain

      the rest of heroes no more passive stat gain to lvl up

      Awakened

        He can use more spells now, but at the same time, he's gonna have mana issue. Forge spirits nerfed. I guess this is the rise of WQ build.

        dunce

          He can maybe even do more than just sunstrike in the early fights

          Rain

            Death of quas exort?

            Perhaps even....dare I say it..... rise of wex exort?? (wex for alacrity)

            sumail fan

              my question is whether the right clicks during the early levels will be enough? or will he be utility spellcaster? since the passive stat gains are no more...i wonder what his fate is now.

              Korlek

                not death of quas exort I think, the little boost of exort reagent compensate lack of stats no longer given by his ability. But 2 forged lvl 15 (lvl 8 before) slow him alot to kill enemy mid [edit, thought it was lvl 10 kinda bad :(]. Quas is must have for regen since it provides no more extra hp, wex exort sounds way less viable than before.

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                Reese

                  imho QW with a value point in E is the best build now

                  sumail fan

                    ^that too not the orchid build, rather a teamfight build with drums aghs and shivas i suppose...i mean the teamfighting is buffed in this patch right? everyone else is so much stronger that orchid wouldnt be that good i guess. Dunno...

                    Korlek

                      Orchid was already good anyway on QW build to pick off mostly anyone since minute 15. Very efficient against heroes having a spell immune, an escape and/or are mana dependent

                      hehe

                        Feels more like a situational pick now, but I guess we'll wait and see

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                        Herald★★

                          They destroyed the hero. Invoker cannot go for EQ anymore without double forges, WQ is also bad because they nerfed EMP damage and it now be even completely negated by hood or pipe.
                          You can't go for meteor + blast build because the blast does not stun anymore.
                          The invoker cooldown reduction does no help at all, at early levels invoker has a shitty mana pool and he does not gain stats anymore. On top of that to work like before the patch 7.00 you have to spend 2 of your talents while all the other heroes got extra buffs.
                          It's some major nerfs there, the hero is not viable anymore.

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                          Melaena

                            He got rekt. He wasn't even OP to begin with. They wanted to encourage more early activity, but instead of buffing him early, they nerfed his scaling significantly. I really hope they tweak it.

                            Kleeexus

                              welcome to quas wex phase boots urn invoker my friends

                              mumia_mohawk

                                on the other hand.. we will see more this hero in teamfight with 6 cldown invoke.. maybe go with bottle and soul ring..

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                                Jan Frodeno

                                  Can confirm, soul ring is REALLY good on him now! Phase>FARM YOUR MIDAS MID!!>Soul>Drums>euls>aghs>whatever

                                  3-4-1 build instead of the 4-0-4...

                                  Soul ring into emp-then tornado (taking consideration to lower lift time)-cold snap :D do your taunt..

                                  Jacked

                                    spam meatballs now. its legit

                                    エロ仙人

                                      I still do play exort

                                      ❥side

                                        Playing exort invoker is now limiting your capability to make an impact in the early game am i right?

                                        Preview

                                          You know what.. QE is still good, even Invo is nerfed.. The skill tree is actually good, except from the aoe deafening blast at lvl 25 >:( , which means you only have 1 blast from lvl 1-24, the forge is okay at lvl 15 on my opinion since the forge is really OP combined with coldsnap and alacrity early on before 7.00 you can kill easily below level 10 invoker with 2 forge and that coldsnap + sunstrike/alacrity..
                                          QW is also good but it actually depends on your opponents, I usually go QW if I'm against Medusa/TA, QE for the rest.. hope this help

                                          The Medic Guy

                                            agree