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BoJack

    viable this patch?

    how do i go about it?

    casual gamer

      https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2911832455

      watch this ld win the game with weaponized autism

      casual gamer

        in all seriousness you can just build the hero like sniper and have only oov stout on the bear, his perks are that good

        TripleSteal-

          hes played as pos 1-2 with nothing on bear, dragon lance and +200 range talent on the hero, and a lot of dps items.

          kr

            phase aquila dlance mjollnir skadi optional diffusal

            dont skill ult, max q/w

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            faw

              dont u rather play him mid/safge though than off

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              casual gamer

                im 99% sure you skill ult because you can roar then go ranged and hit with the buff

                kr

                  well u obviously skill it because u have to but only after ur like 4/4/1+talent

                  BoJack

                    thanks ill watch it @JDF8

                    honestly i find it very hard to get mid/safe lane nowadays, everyone insta marks it lol

                    thats why i want to run it in the offlane, much easier to get it

                    Perte

                      I know couple of things that will DEFINITLY help you. Ranged ld is the new meta now. But you still need to level ult early because battlecry helps you alot to get kills early game Because returning to ranged form takes less than a second now (going true form still takes 1.9 sec) so you can use battlecry and return to human form instantly for insane damage. After you get dragon lance and +200 range talent, its ok to just stick to ranged form. When im like 6 level, i stick around in true form. In lane, I attack the enemy hero with my bear and wait for entangle to proc then i instantly use battlecry and druid form to attack him. Its like free kill. Needs practice, but it pays off well. I like going new MoM for my bear for more change to entangle enemy hero coz 100 ms and as is huge for the bear. lone druid is one of the best laners ingame. Thats not my opinion but a FACT. Offlane is your priority. Go mid if offlane is occupied. u can't waste this laning power in jungle. One of best things about going offlane is, you can get 2 bounty runes at a time. Send your bear to enemy jungle, use roar at 2x:59 if there is also enemy hero trying to take the rune. Steal it, while you take the rune in your jungle with your druid.
                      I had horrible winrate before 7.00 patch as u can see in this profile. But after that, Thanks to "Hopeless"(ranked 5th for best lone druid) But he taught me well now I have around %90 winrate in my lone druid spam smurf that i created after 7.00 patch. He has more than 1000 lone druid games with %70 winrate. Those are mostly his words, not mine. He recommends radiance instead of MoM and hes right. But mom fits my playstyle.

                      casual gamer

                        in all honesty if you want to learn how to play ld well look at a ranged ld carry. it's a pretty simple build though

                        the guy in that game basically just ratted to victory because he would suicide on rax and respawn in 20 seconds, which is kinda retarded but it clearly worked LOL.

                        BoJack

                          THANKS @PARTE @JDF8 !!!! REALLY HELPFUL STUFF, OUT TO REKT SOME SOUTH AMERICAN NUBS

                          Perte

                            I see you skipped ulti in your last game. Dont listen to @kr. Yes ranged lone druid is the meta now but You definitly need your ultimate. And you need it in lvl 6 early game asap! not after 4/4/1 + talent. you can ignore ultimate in late game

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                            casual gamer

                              ok i actually played a game of ld carry here it is!

                              https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2916348748

                              i think u can pretty clearly see the strengths and weaknesses of this build here

                              i made a lot of obvious mistakes because i'm not a very good bear player, but the hero is pretty forgiving as long as you get good farm

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                              Rain

                                @Parte You mentioned radiance. In fact, that is an idea which interests me; hybrid style with radiance rush on bear and then full ranged carry mode on ld. I have a match to showcase that here:

                                https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2909173597

                                the idea is that you have both a front-liner melee unit to distract and hurt/annoy/cancel blinks of the enemy team (i.e. ur radiance bear) and a sniper standing back hitting the enemy with maxed range and dps (ie ur ld hero). Keep hurricane pike on ld just like sniper does for dangerous situations.

                                this worked in my last game, but one needs the laning phase to go PERFECTLY WELL for this to work out

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                                Seven-

                                  ^ that requires waaaaaaaay too much to work properly

                                  not to mention ur bear is alr annoying because it can roar/root people

                                  Rain

                                    ^true. I went mid against an AM. that explains the perfect laning stage

                                    Seven-

                                      i mean even alchemist, the fastest core that can farm radiance, is clearly struggling rn

                                      also hybrid build dont usually work as a 2-in-1, they actually work as "one half of one build and one half of another" so it ends being really weak compared to just going one path (this is also true for qop)

                                      anyway were there any LD picks during esl genting?

                                      Perte

                                        i dont know about esl gentling but professional teams picked lone druid only 5 times and won 3 of them after 7.00 patch.
                                        @Life's2short4dota
                                        what you wrote is the playstyle in 7.00. laning stage is not the problem for me but late game is. But thats because im bad as a carry role and im used to dominite early-mid game coz im a mid player.

                                        casual gamer

                                          its not a hybrid build you have a 1000 range agi carry with sick damage and you have a walking root / roar. half the time in the lategame i park the bear in fountain so i can instantly bring it to me and roar

                                          Shou

                                            U dont need rad on bear. Just go main right click and later on when u have like 4-5 items get ac/vlads on bear. Now ur the right clicker and its the aura carrier

                                            Perte

                                              @Jdf8 but you already can roar with ur druid?

                                              Shou

                                                Ye but bear can roar while you are stunned, and u can roar while bear is stunned. Plus u can use the bear roar as sort of a scouting tool, when they go on it just roar. U can cancel tp's from a distance. Basically the main hero doesnt want to get close enough to roar someone, so the bear is like a long ranged roar.

                                                casual gamer

                                                  slardar think "look this noob druud acc buyer lolz i crush ez mmr"

                                                  then he stuns me and gets ROARED LOLZ GET FUCKED

                                                  Perte

                                                    makes sense

                                                    casual gamer

                                                      ok seriously though that ld player is going crazy

                                                      and hes using the old build, ld is such a good hero right now jesus

                                                      Huwewewe

                                                        papa bear so strong

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                                                          Perte

                                                            Is he playing only rat druid? coz his k/d/a really sucks in those games

                                                            Perte

                                                              damn, in that match where he played 0/11/12, he has 16.9k building damage omg

                                                              casual gamer

                                                                dude i did 21k building damage with this hero LROFL