General DiscussionDrums on who ?

BM can have early drums, Underlord can also but pipe and mek are more important...tbh is more about team composition. For example if you have a Luna, giving her a support drums for pushing would be fantastic

Under 300 movement speed STR cores that don't want to rush HotD or pick up a Wand or Raindrop.

cores that don't want HotD

nobody???

^ Exactly.

@C Nagi 89

So basically no one :)

I thought it might be good on tiny and OD

I want to say, with confidence, Brewmaster. But I have yet to even SEE a Brewmaster played in the last 40 days. RIP Jackie Chan.

Well to be fair, its not bad on Tiny, but not as relevant with the introduction of Echo Sabre. OD sometimes pick it up if they're behind, but usually they try to finish Pike before all else.

It can be pretty core on Doom, if you're willing to, you know, play Doom.

Brewmaster is very odd hero and I think he either need a good ulti buff or rework but he then would be OP with aoe purge ,good stun ,slow and very high miss chance

Why the heck shall I ruin a game with a doom pick just to test drums :)

I would need an actual good player who understands the game as it currently is to confirm this but, I'm pretty sure it was the introduction of Talents that really killed this item, more than another item.

Silencer if you can get it fast enough

I have to say the hotd is such a bloody shit item from icefraud. It makes no sense and just cannibalizes existing items.

i am very sad for 2 reasons

1. luna and her partner in crime shadow demon will not be nerfed for a long time

2. when they are nerfed, my new favorite item will also be nerfed