Hero is completely OP. I love him. He can sustain in lane easily now thanks to death pulse change. He's very difficult to kill or gank thanks to ghost shroud which used to be one of his biggest weakness. He allows his entire team to just snowball out of control and death ball. Once Necro's team has an advantage the game is just over.
Also he abuses shrines and arcane boots thanks to ghost shroud. With a pipe he isn't even that vulnerable to magic damage. He isn't even that reliant on his ult to win fights, that's just the nail in the coffin if it succeeds.
His only weakness is being burst down at the start of the fight, but if you don't kill him while he's stunned, he activates shroud, Pops mek and pipe and suddenly he's full HP, immune to physical damage, tanky to magic damage and you've used half your spells doing nothing.
Item build Arcanes>Mek>Blink>Pipe if they have any magic damage at all> Aghs> GG boots> whatever you want. Game is usually over by this point.
You can get pipe before blink if they have a ton of magic burst. You can skip it if they have no magic damage at all. You can also finish GG boots earlier if they have silences you need to get rid of.
Skill build> Max Q, get a value point in W and E. Max Shroud second, Hearstopper last. Get ult whenever possible.
Talents> 40 dmg, 15 Movespeed, 10 magic resist (unless they have no nukes at all), -1s death pulse.
Trust me I'm borderline Highskill.
Hero is incredibly strong atm and I think they ll nerf him severely very soon. Max Q value points in W and E. With talents I'd suggest different approach than guy above : 40 dmg, 6 stats to stay in the fight for longer, amplify magic dmg - you can boost your magic rst with many items, but boosting magic dmg is harder and -1s dp. Items - tango, double mango, ward and double branch will keep you afloat against most double lanes and some trilanes aswell. From that point : arcanes,mek, blink, agha, g boots - mix order depending on your situation. End with shiva/octarine. Situational pipe, bm. Most important thing: force your team to take objectives asap. My 2c.
dual offlane is strong but so is trilane --> roaming with some lame shit like sd mirana
i think its best to have a strong solo offlaner with a shitton of lane pressure so u lock their supports in the safelane and free ur supports to run around winning all the lanes
Really strong core right now and I prefer to see my necros go exactly that; off or safe, but always solo. Mid needs to have some kind of kill potential when I gank it, which necro doesn't really have unless they walk right up to him or he manages to walk right up next to them pre 6.
If you run a tri, its probably to make him ungankable. He's one of those heroes you NEED online fast to be effective in higher brackets. So if you can't guarantee levels, guarantee gold and safety. Max Q, 1 in Death Shroud, and a 10 minute Mek with 1-2 Arcanes on your team is easy towers.
Options in my bracket are Midas, Blademail, Mek, Aghs rush, Shivas, Veil, Octarine and Radiance currently. I usually build either Vlads and / or HotD and grab a wolf for really heavy group pushes with this hero pre 20 minute mark. Crimson, Lotus, Solar and Pipe also go really well with a Necro teammate.
By the way, in case anyone misconstrued what I said, I meant as having a necro teammate; I never, ever play this hero, but I play with him quite a bit.
Trilane is shit on ns because then supp suck too much xp from the lane resulting around 8-9 min lv 6. They dont pull and contantly push creep wave. Sometimes they also contest your lh because they are SUPPORT
Trilane shit because if supports don't get anything out of lane, stay in lane too long it's shit. Offlaner can just get so much out of the lane w shrine n bounties anyway. I'm just saying it's easier to fuk up a trilane
necro is best in the offlane (ideally with a support hero or against VERY weak supports) or in the midlane. IDK if this hero can survive mid against ember however
Play necro+wisp and it's legitimately retarded, totally unkillable. I like dual offlane a lot for this hero although if you can somehow get a solo safelane matchup it's fine as well. Midlane is OK but I think you lose to a few common midlaners like Ember, SF, Qop.
Midas on necro is dumb cuz he wants to deathball. And i wud consider hood in some games but u dont have to upgrade it immediately. Personally necro's items are really fluid, he will usually go mek but sometimes blademail is a better option, force/blink early is sometimes needed and you can upgrade to pike if u want them effecient stats. He can bkb or pipe or veil or dagon or even crimson ive seen for mid game presence. Maybe a greaves upgrade. Aghs usually to follow. Then of course comes the late game items like hex, shivas, octarine, lotus orb, though usually the deathball ends the game at the 3rd or 4th item.
@CUN*TPASTE yeah wisp+necro combo confirmed, look at my winrate with this combo on 7.01
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/57157414/matches?date=patch_7.01&hero=io&teammate_hero=necrophos
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What do you guys think about this hero? Any lane is easy, maybe except an aggressive trilane but even then he won't die easy, maybe force out a Shrine use. Anyways does anyone even trilane in 2017 lul. Base damage is low though might get out-CSed.
Early game is strong, can tower dive with very good results. Heal + Shroud does so much damage and provides a lot of utility, not to mention it's an AOE. Kill regen alleviates mana problems somewhat. Scythe is a reasonable nuke.
Mid game can be active anywhere in the map at any given time, has relevant sustain with the kill regen and the Mek he is bound to be carrying. Also has a free Ghost Scepter. Scythe begins to do considerable damage.
Late game is absolutely fucking devastating. Heartstopper eats away at high HP targets, Pulse is a constant flow of magical damage output and healing, Shroud has a large AOE and now has a 36% movespeed slow. Necro can start to reliably spam Scythe because of Scepter's CD reduction. Scythe begins to be the initiation to a gank because allied heroes and Necro have enough damage to burst down the target while full HP, utilizing the disable. Can also be used to waste BKB time.
This hero seems interesting and can fit into any lineup and still contribute much to the match, plus his cosmetics are fucking sick (pun intended). Glimmer Capes fuck him up but that item's forgotten lmfao. Thoughts about this hero, and any tips? Will try to learn how to effectively spread cancer.