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General DiscussionTo those who say you can win "unwinnable games"

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Thanos

    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2931861422

    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2933277835

    Do I really deserve this? I'm so ****ing tired.

    You can guess who fed.

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    1-IceTea 🌟

      Every player have his/her good and bad games forgive them.

      By the rough look at your recent match you always maintain good KDA,but still below 50% win rate,when you play tinker and always farm everything you could and without consider to let your teammate farm?
      I meet this kind of tinker alot around 3.6K mmr are you one of thouse?

      If so,answer is yes you deserve this kind of teammate because you take all farm and make them useless.

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      Thanos

        @1iceTea
        The sub 50% winrate is due to my losing streaks 1-2 years ago. I've recently come back to raise my main acc after playing hundreds of games quite successfully in VHS via smurfs.

        For Tinker, what happened for both the games are spec would instantly feed Monkey King and he would go Godlike sub 10 minutes. Well yes I managed to stop those streaks by rotating. But still my carries have 0 idea about where and when to farm and continue to feed. Simply put, there weren't even farming properly and they weren't utilizing the spaces I created via snowballing.

        Both games could have ended in like 30 mins, but I've tried my best to carry my team because I had hope, and that's why I felt so exhausted when its' an hour long and your carries couldn't help you "carry" them game.

        Oh and forgot to mention how they would "farm" when we team-wiped the enemy, and would dive 1v5 like a boss, ignoring the free to hit towers and buildings. Also going outside when we were defending high ground. *Sigh*

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        Won't care, Don't care. XD

          ns hs lul

          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

            given a theoretically perfect player 98% of the games are winnable

            given a non perfect, but just a regular 6k player he'd have at least 90% winrate in your bracket.

            that being said, all you did is run around killing people

            in 2 games of 1+ hours each, you have 136 and 882 tower damage.

            believe it or not, kills don't win games. pushing towers does.

            SupprtzMasterz

              Poor you. You deserve to blame them since they fed too much.

              evy

                You're refering 6k as regular :(

                1-IceTea 🌟

                  Is a hard game for you, but try to find your own mistake after flame them,it help you to improve

                  ImagineDodong

                    What the H**LS wrong with those games damn so much DEATHS and on both teams on top of that, as a Spec picker I'am disappoint especially with those ammounts of deaths.

                    Games that have that kind of scores is seriously bad especially if both teams have similar scores above 50, its like both teams don't have advatages and everybody just dies.

                    Sucks to be you man you seems to be being teamed up by people that likes to die hahaha.

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                    fx

                      Thats why i picked luna. Win 1 tf get 2 rax

                      Riguma Borusu

                        You're refering 6k as regular :(

                        some 6k players are pros, so he's saying that even if the player in question is not a pro, he'd have 90%+ winrate in that bracket

                        which was confirmed multiple times by multiple people

                        Tutz^

                          I feel you, man.

                          Check this game.

                          https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2478814315

                          It was 7 months ago and I was 2600 back then.

                          7 months passed and I am 4100, while these guys are still there.

                          You just can't win all games, it is not possible.

                          If you play good, you will inevitably gain MMR, regardless of local losestreaks.

                          I had them on 3200 and on 2600. Still got through.

                          Hope that made your mood better.

                          Keep playing and you'll never be matched with these people again, they'll simply be over a thousand MMR below you in half a year.

                          P.S. You've got a good winrate with Tinker, thus, you'll gain pts, man. Just play. Mute all chat, blast the music and wreck your dumpster bracket.

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                          Giff me Wingman

                            typical autistic Sea Player.

                            You didnt play impossible games. You played hard games, and you lost because you're bad.

                            casual gamer

                              i love hitting buildings

                              PsyFi

                                as a spec player on my accounts it pains me to see the spec in those games...

                                and Cookie is right - pushing towers and rax over getting kills will most of the time win you the game...

                                no matter how many times you kill the enemy they will eventually catch up to you in terms of farm

                                nessaJ.

                                  You guys were lost on the draft any way. It must be impossible to win when you got 5 cores all game every game.

                                  PsyFi

                                    the 2nd game they didnt have 5 cores.

                                    and both games had MK who is annoying and both games had cores who do insane amounts of Physical Dmg so maybe pick to counter that because items dont really help

                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                      almots every low mmr game you'll have 5 cores, that is nothing out of the ordinary for low mmr

                                      offlaner

                                        taking objectives is very important for winning game. if you just go killing and farming, it is not the only factor that helps you win. you turn teamfights into advantage and take objectives at right time, you can win game. even drafting is important. different heroes and line ups have different time window and if you take objectives in that time, you increase your chances of winning that game with every right move you make. if your against a line with strong late game while your line up has heroes that come online and peak much faster, you must take maximum advantage of before the peak time and should carefully try to win the game. no game is confirmed win or loss. its just that every right or wrong move you make increases or decreases your chances of winning the game respectively.

                                        offlaner

                                          will i be able to climb with that antimage winrate, (if i can maintain that obviously).??

                                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                            well your last wr match you had 0 bld, you never attempted to hit a tower with a hero made for melting them

                                            knowing the theory isn't the same as actually trying to execute it.

                                            offlaner

                                              well i am just saying what i should do. i might not be able to do that every game, as i am not good enough, but i am trying to execute whats in my mind. its not that i have 0 tower dmg every game.

                                              Tutz^

                                                Why are you asking questions?

                                                Just go, play and see.
                                                If AM is an O.K. hero for this and you play good enough, you'll win games and gain MMR in the long run, else you won't.

                                                All these predictions don't work, only stats and time will tell.

                                                Theory doesn't work where practice does.

                                                P.S. IMO AM is a total garbage hero, but that's just me, I am not a carry player. See for yourself, don't listen to anyone.

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                                                Johnny Rico

                                                  you didnt spam march enough to defend high ground.

                                                  Xcell

                                                    Dude its times you realize it.. There so many retard.. I suggest u stop playin solo ranked match, coz its absolutely nothing, even if u decent player if u meet retard at your team, you will lose

                                                    Its all about luck in solo ranked match(u can only pray that u wont meet with core picker. likes me, i not really like supp role but should pick it all the times bcoz that retard core picker), better playin party ranked match with decent friends of yours and avoid playin solo if u didnt wanna get hurt

                                                    Onions

                                                      Support sniper who goes SB vs a slardar. You get a lot of kills but
                                                      Nobody hits towers

                                                      N86

                                                        There's no need to change what works, but AM is kind of awful in 7.0, at least compared to most hard carries.

                                                        evy

                                                          AM is awful in 7.00
                                                          But in low bracket the meta doesn't exist so whatever spam whatever you like