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General DiscussionCouple of questions about Sange & Yasha

Couple of questions about Sange & Yasha in General Discussion
Mr. Takamura

    1. When or in what kind of situation do you get it?
    2. Which hero needs it the most?
    3. Is it even still viable in this recent patches? I rarely see anyone making SnY anymore, except for Troll or Gyro.

    Cheap Laugh Guy

      Why is SnY bad on CK but good on Gyro?
      Before it was nerfed for ranged, it was a wide choice, I even thought of getting it on Morph. BUT now... why... why... why... still on Gyro

      Cheap Laugh Guy

        Razor, Bristleback maybe, Bloodseeker, Ursa maybe
        Kite kite kite!!
        Because SnY is just a chasing item, which will not be good if you're not combative enough
        People have more choice now
        Dragon Lance to Pike which is more useful on ranged
        Echo Sabre hits better
        Drums cheaper and almost the same thing
        HotD Alt Drum
        SnY is almost buried but it is a 4000g item

        Cheap Laugh Guy

          4000g is like a dead borderline I guess
          With cheaper items after 6.87 and 7.00
          You would rush luxury after since they replaced SnY function better
          I still like the ms it gives
          It makes me roam quicker
          However, it is quite the ded item and exceptionally good on just a few

          Cheap Laugh Guy

            I am your personal fan

            oof

              its funny that people thing echo sabre hits better.
              when it doesnt.

              arin

                never i think

                fx

                  Make sny great again

                  Player 123655765

                    compliments with blood thirst with bs

                    evy

                      Make SnY and MoM great again
                      1-1-1-1 max stat jugg never forget

                      oof

                        i think its only good on shadow fiend, razor and slark

                        Magnolia

                          when you rly need hp and a bit dps

                          idk man drow is the only carry i can think of, only situational

                          its garbage , melee heroes 99,9% should get echo sabre rather than this shit.

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                          dead

                            echo sabre > sny for meele heroes
                            though some range heroes can get it but pike is better

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                            oof

                              lol you say that echo>sny for melees just because of the mana regen? really?

                              i guess if the fight lasts 3 seconds echo might be better dps in that case but otherwise i doubt that.

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                              dead

                                its a cost efficient damage item

                                Xignum

                                  you just never feel the impact for buying sange,16 str is all you feel from that thing

                                  oof

                                    pretty sure sny is more efficient on almost any hero with already reasonably high attack speed. so like if you have only echo sabre or only sny on a hero with a high BAT, i guess echo sabre might be better then for the cost. otherwise im pretty sure sny would be better.

                                    likeu say u dont feel impact from sange, but what impact from 15 int 15 str do you feel as an agility hero when you buy echo sabre?

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                                    TripleSteal-

                                      never
                                      the items dead, same as daedalus

                                      Fee Too Pee

                                        except on troll
                                        Literally this item is only for troll atm
                                        only on troll

                                        dunce

                                          Pretty much replaced by hurricane pike

                                          Beks

                                            dont read normal skill comments protip

                                            oof

                                              well im not saying its a good item, just saying its overall better than echo sabre unless you are desperate for mana regen

                                              However that has more to do with echo Sabre being overall trash on most agility carries and not sny being particularily good.

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                                              Xignum

                                                When you have a yasha i dont see a reason of getting a sange instead of a manta anyway

                                                dead

                                                  i would rather go linkin or manta rather than sny since those items have more to offer
                                                  sny needs a buff tbh

                                                  Kaiki Deishu

                                                    I would rather go Heavens Halberd or Manta Style than SnY; Icefrog should buff SnY you so that people will use it again just like in the past WC3 days

                                                    oof

                                                      still feels good when you get totally dumpstered all game but you manage to make min 40 sny diffusal silver edge on slark (needed purge too) and comeback monster kill destroy ancient with this extremely cost efficient slark items (did that at 3.7k mmr ranked game)

                                                      i say cost efficient because sny on slark becomes far more valuable as you get more essence shift stacks, echo doesnt at all.

                                                      i dont think the item needs an actual buff, maybe just a few more stats in str/agi and as/dmg thats all.

                                                      if im not mistaken its bought for the manfight stats boost.

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                                                      Bungmangler

                                                        Perhaps buffing it to include a miss chance ( sort of brood like) not very high 15% or something. Buff the Damage or stat gain.
                                                        I cannot recall the last time i saw this item since the ECHO saber/pike came into the game.
                                                        ES is mostly gotten because it has that mana regen.
                                                        or combine diffusal blade for slot efficiency ?

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