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General DiscussionI want to git gud at invoker... HELP

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Farm then Carry

    Pretty self-explanatory but yeah. I was playing invoker recently and I really need tips. Probably on survivability and what not.
    My average kda is 11/7/19

    Recent 3 games (top=newest):
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2952626583
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2939993186
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2939851597

    fx

      Im going to give you the tips on general gameplay of dota not invoker because you are not good dota player in general. You can either look at my games to look how i farm midgame and fight midgame. What i notice what dota 2 ns player is they have a good laning skill but they suck at midgame desicion. Either they fight too much or farm too much. I recommend to see how you split push midgame when you are behind and how you farm midgame.
      Tdlr farm midgame

      Agn

        I checked your profile and to be honest at this level you should focus on getting good in general instead of grinding particular hero. In my opinion you don't have enough knowledge of dota2 to effectively play invoker. There's a reason why he has 43% winrate in your skill bracket - he requires certain amount of skill and knowledge. Start with the basics like farming during the laning phase and check what items you should get on a hero before the game starts. Radiance + BF ember is not a thing.

        likeabossr

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          evy

            "You can either look at my games to look how i farm midgame and fight midgame."
            :thinking:

            evy

              Just like everyone else said, focus on improving your general gameplay, since there is A LOT to improve on from there
              I suggest starting by knowing how to last hit and play the laning phase
              Find out about creep aggro
              Control the lane equilibrium
              Know how to last hit
              Know when to last hit
              Know where to last hit

              Xignum

                if you want to get good at invoker just play him,you need experience anyway

                evy

                  "you need experience anyway"
                  Is this an unintentional pun about invoker

                  fx

                    You dont learn that much from pro compared to a 2k skill bracket destroyer. Ns player only cant draw creep aggro. Most of them are fine in last hitting. But after laning phase they dont even farm thats why i become a pub stomper in my bracket

                    likeabossr

                      i remember i start practicing invoker at BOTS only just keep playing and farm fast once you get your midas farm on jungle a bit and let your support farm on your lane if they fighting you can split and push some towers if your on bad situation and your team keeps fighting try to split push instead of going with them if your line up dont have chance fighting early invoker exort good when your team have so much stuns you can land sunstrike easily

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                      Father Jack from Marketing

                        Good invokers are either Asians who can achieve 8 million APM quite easily, or use macros because they are unskilled. If you cant do either of those give up now..

                        evy

                          @fx
                          You're also bad at aggro tricks anyway
                          But hey at least you do them anyway

                          fx

                            Lmao i cant still do the 1 creep pulling one

                            evy

                              Afk farming is quite efficient and an easy way to win but only if you utilize it well
                              Yesterday I went like 10-3-8 or smth and still lost because I threw a dieback against WK luna alche
                              Sooner or later you'd have to improve on aspects other than farming, but for now just focus on that

                              evy

                                I still can't forgive myself for that loss

                                Father Jack from Marketing

                                  I did more damage in my last game as a solo hard support AA than our mid invoker.

                                  That was yesterday and im still hurting today *sob*

                                  >.<

                                  likeabossr

                                    ^dont expect too much on high skill invoker

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                                    evy

                                      To be honest having not much HD as a core hero is fine as long as you farmed well enough

                                      evy

                                        I pick void because i trusted my injoker turns out he tornadoed a 4 man chrono haHAA

                                        evy

                                          Antimage is an easy hero he only has 2 active skills

                                          fx

                                            Antimage dont offer really much to learn. Try jugg, if you master him you can pretty much play any safalane core.

                                            Farm then Carry

                                              Thanks for the tips! Guess I really need to practice farming. Just one question. When would be a good time to stop farming mid and start farming jungle?

                                              Yatō666!

                                                When you get your midas you can start jungling.
                                                Try to split-push as well, and be ready to join fights if ever.
                                                But mostly, just read what's happening in the game and adjust.

                                                evy

                                                  "Try jugg, if you master him you can pretty much play any safalane core."
                                                  :thinking:

                                                  Farm then Carry
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                                                    Super Senko-san Time

                                                      You should watch and learn from the Invoker boss @ level 15 in Dark Moon

                                                      Seven-

                                                        hey guys can u add me?

                                                        evy

                                                          What's so hard about spinning around hitting towers and pressing R on a solo hero

                                                          arin

                                                            no matter how many bot games you will play, you'll still get anxious about screwing up combos in real match and you will screw up
                                                            but it will get better eventually

                                                            likeabossr

                                                              ^practice combo on bots only but decision making in real game

                                                              arin

                                                                i practiced combos on bots but i still got nervous in real games and wasnt able to dish out spells without fuckups until few dozens of games

                                                                might be just my autism tohugh

                                                                Farm then Carry

                                                                  I already have a feel for my combos (like 1 easy combo.) I just need to learn decision making.

                                                                  Shou

                                                                    I can do the incredible combo of forge spirits into hit tower. Pretty insane.