General DiscussionNatures Prophet

I build him as a carry if i would play him. Mael dlance pike mjonir se sheepstick

ur better off playing as the treant

np is dogshit

ur better off playing as the treant

Con = ratting is dead
Hero only offers some tree ground targetting disable and some lifeless trees
Squishy as fuck
Greedy as fuck

Ratting was revived with patch 7.03.

NP is good in the offlane, he hits hard and his treants can be annoying if the enemy has no way to get rid of them easily. However, there are better offlaners.

mom build leaves you vulnerable because of the unpurgeable silence

damage output is pathetically low for an offlaner, only nuke is not even that reliable

eats so much farm because of said nuke

his playstyle needs too much communication to function well in a pub match. treants, trees, tele (to an extent), and nuke all affect your enemies as well as your teammates. you could fuck things up big time if used wrong

hero model looks ugly as fuck

no one likes rats who drags the game to 60+ minutes

stats are meh, regen is mediocre (vital in offlane gaming)

can alternate to jungle well enough in terms of resources but farms camps too slow, cant utilize the iron talon farming well

needs a decent amount of farm to actually rat, even then hes only effective if hes farmed af (talking about hex bthorn mjoll farmed)

skill scaling is also meh, not much use putting him in the offlane but to get a few more treants and summon a few more trees

tldr shit hero

valve should buff np like Sprout reveals invi heroes inside the trees or silences it or roots it soemthing like that

Sorry how was ratting revived again?

With shrines still there to fuck your life ratting still isnt as good as it was

@nikki, do you think real treats do that?
I guess it buff it with point target , like if you press q and point target to a hero it will target the hero only and not the area around.
Well pretty useless huh? No.

I don't think the increased 10 seconds cool down to TP is enough to revive ratting. But who knows, ratting isn't completely dead yet.

@D_RECK he's too balance rn but buffing something would be good i think there's a version in warcraft dota wherein sprout has true sight

hes like a shittier ld now, he needs a buff to base stats and better stat scaling, cuz otherwise i dont see him being all that useful in any game

He's still OK if OP put it that way,but that seem more like a support.
Offlane need to be more tank and efficient teamfight skill which NP is lack of.

I saw someone said rat will drag game long?
He must be never saw a efficient Dota Rat gaming