Cm used to be bae but after nerfs its lich ofc.... only problem with lich is he drops pff hard with no items..... u still secure (always) a won lane.... a few won team fights and high ground defense..... another problem is no lock down but thats why I get atos on him....still u r even more reliant on ur team with lich so its definitely not ez mmr ..... fuck supporting dude if im not picking cm.... buff the ice babe plz
cm's better because even if you have no idea what you're doing you'll still have some impact just because of the global aura
if party mmr, spam IO in 5-stack party mmr games, but if solo mmr, spamming jakiro is extremely good since his talents are really good, and he is extremely easy to use, cm isnt really good to spam right now i think because of the nerf, lich is good too and lock down isnt really a problem since you will have a initiator hero on your team, vengeful is great, she can right click pretty well and her ss can be used to save and kill, definitely crucial for game winning plays
i do say that suggesting any hero is invalid... sigh
any jakiro/cm spammer id ? i'm tired playing carry and want to be carried lul
depend on your team lineup. If they lack of mana regen better use cm (like bb, ursa, etc). If u have initiator like magnus or tide i think it's pretty same, u just need to manage your position and spell since low level cm cant use ss if u already spam skill 1 and 2 coz of her low mana. Lich is good in early because his 3rd skill (by eating creep u get solo xp, mana, and manage the creep position) and skill 2 to defend tower early. I think it's better with lich, but make sure u have tank in front so u give fears to enemy (they will always think not to gather up)
@never give up!!, sea player is still ok if u just mute the fucking vocal one. hahaha Put Tank in the Mall
Kinda depends, for first pick probably cm cus she's more versatile and aura helps whole team no matter what. If enemy has a weak safe lane then lich is better cus you can go offlane solo or dual and kill their carry or deny everything. Thing is lich falls off pretty dramatically mid game until he picks up aghs, and even then it depends on enemy team makeup. If they all get bkbs or are ranged with hurricane pikes your ult is useless anyway. Frost armor scales nicely though.
Lich safe lane is strong but kind of wasted with what you can do to an offlane carry. Sometimes you have to though like if your team picks spectre or anti mage and you need to babysit.
I love Lich. the people are right when they say he falls off but if your smart with item choices you can stay useful. Also be patient with his ult. stay back and wait for the fight to start then wait a further 3 seconds and get those ultra kills while all your cores are dead. this way you have a good score when u lose and can flame your team
CM kinda falls off too though, but cus she has stun and a slow she's a bit more versatile than lich. Lich with aghs vs a bunch of melee cores is REALLY strong late though.
CM, do not max Aura first or you will use your one spell and be a useless right-tickler (your right click does nothing and you are slow and squishy)
Cm is broken
One of the scariest heroes to play against and best to play with from my experience
the reasons cm being good universally, and lich utility being highly dependant on the draft
also side note: lich is a very boring hero to play
CM all you need is awareness and great positioning and don't forget to build Atos TIS GUD, the downside of Lich is High level players doesn't really get caught out of all the buonces of his ult unlike low mmr's.
No matter how much you're screwing, CM will give bigger impact than Lich. Just running around T3 after lv 7 and your teammate still get regen. My winrate with CM is really good lately.
How am I supposed to throw spells without maxing aura with the mana cost nerfs without ferrying 20 clarities rofl
also side note: lich is a very boring hero to play
he's not if you're sadistic, so you max sacrifice and watch the enemy carry cry in despair because his supports can't do shit in his lane and he's the same level as the opposing dual offlane.
I always make sure to Kill-steasecure as much as possible so I don't get bored to hell while playing Lich. Also, make fun of the other team because I sometimes end up with 3 to 4 boots before winning.
thanks for the recommendation guys !
i will stick with pos 4 supp
geez pos 5 supp is really hard !
playing cm 5 game 1 game win
playing lich 5 game 2 game win(because enemy meepo)
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pls answer the question with reason
any other hero suggestion is invalid