SD/Doom with aghs. (hard counter)
Viper (Hard counter)
AA ( Somewhat good counter)
Maybe slark. Maybe bristle. TB(lol i guess he disappeared after the nerfs ) ( decent pick against her)
Naix juggernaut , Slark are good vs spec and play at pace spec does not enjoy . I have had bad luck with shitting slarks on my team recently though .
eating her towers or eating her team
most of the decent ones are already mentioned
break is good
you also usually want something to destroy her in lane also
ET, 100% damn aura
u cant even kill him with sleep 5 second and just crack BOOM
slark can kill spec with bkb and silver edge but what u think if spec use manta and bkb?
1. Pick Lycan
2. Lock her down with hotd (neutrals with disable) & micons.
3. If she goes online further than you just split push until died and shapesift when haunt is used.
4. ???????
5. Profit
@Filthy slarks works well but jugger is really shit against her 1v1, even omnislash couldnt kill her once she got vanguard
You shouldve suggest to build bthorn to either silencer her or her teammates and silver edge on sven rather rushing satanic because it will destroy her passives hard , at least it will put more pressure to the enemy team to buy dust always. A blink dagger is always the core item for sven but with haunt and radiance damage it will always negates dagger to go for gs blink stun combo
Healers are very good against Spec. Necros, Treants, Dazzles etc. Spec strength lies in out-sustaining her opponents through dispersion and radiance, and most healers can out-heal radiance damage alone. Spec's lack of burst or stuns/silences means that they can spam their heals pretty consistently until you're farmed enough to mana drain them with diffusal/manta, lock them down with abyssal, or are just outright ahead enough to kill them quickly. Also why Lifestealer is one of the best counters to Spec, especially if they're not thinking and get a heart and the hp talent.
undying
any carry works fine against spec as long as your offlane dominate her lane
also xmark kunkka destroy her skill 1
any carry who can build silver edge or you can just shut him down and she will scale really slow
slark's problem is he can't really gank whilst haunt is up. SE and dark pact will be on cooldown and he'll find himself 2v1 and abyssaled. obviously he can play around haunt but a bad slark will lose to a bad spec if you see what I mean.
but he can 1vs1 spectre as long spectre doesnt have radiance
idk tho always rekt spectre with slark.
Why would spec be trying to 1v1 spark pre-radiance? That’d be pretty dumb.
I do agree that a good slark will beat a good spec. There’s definitely opportunities to exploit mistakes on both side though.
In the game i actually reckt spec in lane. But our voker lost lane to SF so bad mid it took a long time for him to recover which gave spec enough time to farm. Voker was 2-3 levels behind SF. I understand shutting down enemy carry before they come online that is very basic rule of thumb for any game of DOTA. Also from the discussion it seems break is the most overpowered thing vs Carries.
I have no idea. I only asked for my pick. Invoker was not so bad vs Spec. But somehow SF was able to zone him out so bad it took a toll on the team. Can you elaborate why Invoker is bad vs Spec?
You can easily fuck up Spectre's lane. Fuck her lane fuck her farm, no more Spectre, I think wk is a good counter and Slark is pretty good too
Play slark hes good agains spec and naturally buys silver edge ,slarks game is faster than the pace of spec
No most of u are all idiots AM jugger sven and almost any carry besides a couple of hard carries can't beat spectre not even lycan can beat spectre without massive gold advantage and silver edge lycan counters her by split push only
Tinker and sniper and storm are absolutely shit vs spectre
Spectre is also a hard pa counter she also beats void
Troll and slark are probably the only carries who can 1v1 her
The only other way is to finish early
I used to play Spectre on my first account, and Jug offlane was a 100% lane shut down for me. He'd just dive tower and kill me. Of course I was a noob back then but Jug also plays fast paced games and builds on his strong early game while you just sit there hoping game goes late. with a SE He could find you in jungle and ur one Ult away from death.
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Hi Guys,
I played a ranked CM and our captain suggested that Sven counters Spectre and then went on to farm Satanic first item as Sven. I am not blaming him but just want to understand the logic behind this. Here is link to the match.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3932368958
We could have gone for dozen other carries and still won a lot quicker. Please comment on the match and let me know what could have worked better. FYI i was Bristleback and carried the game somehow instead of Sven.