General Discussionmmr is a joke

who else has the feeling after fast queue update supporting is not playable anymore?

Ever since ranked roles i feel that 90% of so called people who ''main support'' and queued support are fucking horrible anyways, its so horrible to the point that even i myself who isn't a support player believe i can actually play a better support than them smh

yeah

4k players D:

sad,but true

don't ever fast queue, it sucks, I tried couple games, my team couldn't play their role properly.

I went back to slow queue , and I'm on 8 game win streaks as pos 5 - teammates were more likely to coordinate with each other.

fast queue is like low priority games, fkin low quality

If I slow queue, won't I be matched with some fast queue players if there are not enough players for the roles? Can anyone confirm?

^ they said its not a different pool, its just about priority so in theory its possible

........... When i check pos 5 and 4 its fast que immediately. So theres a diffrence between fast que and slow que with the quality of players didnt know that

fast qeue update makes it that people qeue with all roles selected, result is that in many games half the players have no clue how to play their role

I've had pos 5 buy 1 tango, share 2 and rest of the starting items 3 faery fires and a clarity. Weird starting items every game is one of the changes I noticed very strongly. Like offlaner only buying 1 set of regen but 3 gauntlets etc, just generally really confusing stuff is happening.

If yiu have some 95% mid player as offlaner or support because he searched with fast qeue its just gg

Also since start of last weeks I have been getting a ton of russkies and mongolians on EU W, picking mid axe or first picking medusa pos 1 and other game ruining stuff. After I raised my behaviour score to 8.5k :)

actual dead game, every change they implement to ''improve'' matchmaking actually ends up making it worse.

2 minutes less waiting time > half your team cant play their role which they got assigned to randomly

Ruskkies emergence:
I guess the abuse of the fast queue system is so cancerous in their region than even those who can withstand ebola are forced to immigrate to EUW :) Figure of Speech. They go in EUW thinking they can flee ebola but they bring it with them.

All roles selected:
I'm going to talk as the ability draft spammer I am.
People that know only how to play 3 picks as only core pos1/pos2 don't play Dota, they play <insert_pick_name>.

Some people are divine (1% top level) but know only how to play morph (scripted sometimes !!!!) with earthshaker in game/their team.

Assuming this, do you guys think it's legit to be considered part of the 1% best players by just abusing a combo/cheesy pick ?

Everyone will have his own opinion on this complex question and no one has the true answer (mechanical skills ? versatility ? macro ? etc...).

=> Forcing players to get out of their zone of confort makes MMR more accurate in my humble opinion (i.e. Core MMR as an overall or support mmr as an overall).

The best solution would be to have an MMR per position which would be most accurate IMHO but would take too much computations in terms of scalability. For example, there are some amazing pos5 that have no clue how to pos4 and vice-versa.

Fast queue:
Fast queue wasn't meant to improve the matchmaking, it's role pre-selection which was because of the number of games which ended up with tiny airline.
People were complaining about the 12 minutes to find a match (which is not acceptable I admit) and they found a solution out-of-the-box which is great in theory but not perfect.
Match searches were greatly reduced so the objective was reached.
However, they didn't anticipate the selfishness and toxicity of our community who would sell their family and kids for MMR.
=> Don't blame the tool but blame the people who abuse it.

a nice evenly balanced match xd

i don't know what you're talking about
theres 2+ russian speakers even in slow queue every game

Bro I got a teammate tinker who bought basilius rofl