Had to carry that Jugg. Is that fair? No. But if you want to climb, you have to be better than them, not the same.
I'll probably lose it again but who cares. xd I've been bouncing between 3.9 and 4.1k for too long, lost all hope. I know what I need to do in order to climb, but I'm fucking lazy.
But tbh what can you do. Not anyone is made to be 5k material or above.
212282282 is the steam-id to your luck... he said he wanted to teach me the game properly :) are you interested in being my coach too? :D i am at 600mmr right now
First of all, know how to excuse my English as a translator.
I think the individual MMR issue is complex. I have played 1k games for my girlfriend's account, and they are frustrating, as well as many 2k and 3k games ... but with a really slow pace. Where you do not know what to expect; and that is that the game mentality is more "advanced"
They become little fun, and that frustrates. I age and I get old and criticized, and flamer as anyone and that is the most complicated but it is really annoying that you do not understand certain dynamics of the game.
Never happened? to them that they were medium, they had to pique first because nobody does it, they counterpick with 3 heroes, which includes a blood that will obviously win. And you play with the most positive possible, but controlling that blood is not in your possibilities, and the last pick ogre says "Agggg GG that mid".
I am bad at LH you know, I know this, that's why I choose pos 4 or 5 every game I'm in so I don't have to LH much and more focusing on supporting roles.
I think you don't know what you're doing wrong OP, thus you can't solve non listed problems of yours
@Parmaviolets : You are the most f**** stupid delusional piece of shit in the entire internet related to dota 2. Congrats Mr.Dunning Kruger personification.
OP if even my friend, the one that introduced me to Dota and when """"coached"""" me told me to first pick PA ("because she's op, tell you are smurfing" when they were LITERALLY my first games) without even explaining what last hits were and that I needed them in order to get gold and buy items, the one that sits back sapping xp while jerking off, when he doesn't want to push by autoattacking creeps 1 min in, the one that buys a random circlet, stout shield and 0 tangos and salves as starting items on Omni and those other 2-3 heroes he """""can""""" play after 99 years of Dota, the one that barely knows magic stick exists and thinks it's useless, the one that rushes LINKEN'S ON OMNI JCJTNRLSJGLFJDBVJKBKF AND DOES A SHIT TON OTHER BRAINDEAD THINGS!!1!1!!!11, if this guy managed to get to and maintain 2k solo mmr god knows how, Idk how you can't get out of 1k. I swear to god.
It's prolly a mix of things: you might have trash behavior score, plus smurfs are a problem yes (just had a 91% wr Brood mid who was prolly 6-7k in my 4k game and Ik the struggle is real), you overthink your picks and strategies when in 1k it's absolutely not required, but most importantly you tilt and can't focus. I have the same problem when I play with the guy I talked about earlier, I just see red and wanna shove the pc out the window while my mind goes blank. Us women, what amazing, sweet borderline monsters we are. Never underestimate the impact your mental state has, it's HUGE. And of course you make tons of mistakes like we all do.
Pick a hero that doesn't rely on the team, mute everyone, focus on playing well rather than just winning and that will come as a consequence. You will both win AND learn/improve some mechanics. Just keep calm and gl
So I just watched couple of OP's games (highly recommend Match ID 4105658888, consistent usage of lvl 1 Electric Vortex on jungle camps is exhilarating) and I noticed something interesting. OP does tend to check scoreboard quite a lot and not just for the levels, for profiles of the players who are doing well. No doubt, to confirm their suspicion of those players being the dreaded "smurfs".
Seeing that the "smurfs make 1k unplayable" sentiment is prevalent and actual smurfs do show up in this very thread to mock the poor undercalibrated DOTA prodigies with their presense, I have decided to tackle this topic and dispense with it once and for all. (just like the Elo Hell is being answered conclusively just here).
I posit that while smurfs are more likely to appear on the enemy team (by 5 to 4 ratio) that is not what is stopping you from climbing. In the worst case scenario (an unbalanced smurf every game) this means that you are losing every ninth game to a smurf with his winrate likelyhood (smurf has 70-90% winrate, we'll use the worst case scenario again: 90%). This amounts to 10% of games lost unfairly to smurfs, 10% of lost winrate. However, above 60% winrate is very much achievable in 1k if you yourself are 3-4k, as proven many times by many people including some smurfs in this very thread so you should be able to climb.
Additionally, the base assumption is obviously ridiculous: the amount of smurfs is statistically negligible just based on the fact there are way fewer high skilled players. Losses to smurfs are just more embarassingly memorable due to incredible beatdown you receive with no noticable recourse, so it seems that they are all that happens when the contrary is true. For exampe in the OP's game i highlighted (Match ID 4105658888), the enemy team has a kunkka who goes 16-0-16 and gets profile checked by the OP. He is nowhere near the smurf status. If rushing silver edge (with no huskar on the enemy team) and getting outfarmed by jungle WK were not good enough indicators, I watched him in-game, at most he is a 2k smurf. But OP thought kunkka was a smurf and even mentioned that in this thread.
So let's adjust our model for reality and assume that you have genuine smurfs 1 in 10 games. Still a vast overestimation, but it brings your guaranteed loss rate to a measly 1%. Sure you can deal with that. If you are better then your MMR peers in any significant regard you are bound to have way higher that 51% winrate. Even OP has overall 52,69% WR. So yeah, fuck this "smurfs" narrative, and while we are at it, fuck the smurfs.
That is never the case though. With "new" MMR resets everyone can recalibrate with huge margins for MMR gain. Ppl reported losing (and sometimes gaining) up to 2000 MMR on latest calibration. That is more than enough to jumpstart yourself out of the gutter. If you have the skill that is. A year and a half ago this could have been a somewhat valid argument for fringe cases that went straight to ranked after joining dota and then switched to normal for whatever reason, but not anymore.
(highly recommend Match ID 4105658888, consistent usage of lvl 1 Electric Vortex on jungle camps is exhilarating)
So you basically look for the worst match I have played in a week, practically the only match that I lost mid and personally underperformed, and you are recommending that as a representation of how I play? Hows about we all watch you go 1-10 on monkey king? Or your trash terrorblade games? Also why wouldnt you use electric vortex on jungle creeps - it activates your passive allowing you flash farm.
@Parmaviolets : You are the most f**** stupid delusional piece of shit in the entire internet related to dota 2. Congrats Mr.Dunning Kruger personification.
Nice <50% winrate lol. Your stats are fucking trash and you seem like the players we get in party ranked when we dont 5 stack. The kind with an ancient medal who picks an offlaner and feeds the enemy carry :-)))
BUT
That's around 72 wins and 113 loses just from my party where I fool around.
not considering the party games just mentioned above, and just solo queues, my win rate would be over 68%.
My point being DotaBuff Win rate is not relevant to anything
Maybe That's why you do better in parties. You actually care to play well and carry yo girl -_-
I on the other hand usually text and eat while playing in parties
I highly recommend match ID 4105658888 because it's the perfect storm of garbage plays. It's not just underperformance. It's spectacular failures in every aspect of the game. Mad entertainment value. You gave up on the idea of improvement so you can't really blame me for extracting as much fun as I can from this shitstorm of delusion of a thread.
Do you want me to name other matches? Coz I watched 5 of them and the way you run back and forth waiting for creep to go down to LH range while your melee opponents do the same inside your attack range is in every single one outside that alchemist one.
You know the one. This one: Match ID 4111679232 (which I also recommend). The one where you as an Alchemist get Soul Ring at 3 mins and use it twice before 10 mins, the one where you get Armlet at 11 mins and use it at 17:24 for the first time, 20:30 second use, the one where you finish Manta at 32:25 (for whatever reason), and first use it at 38:00, the one where your item progression goes as folllows: Soul Ring -> Armlet -> Maelstrom -> Aghs for Tusk -> finishing Mjollnir -> Shadow blade -> Silver Edge -> Manta -> Basher -> Abyssal -> Heart(after 400 hp talent). The one where you just tank the Ember shield over and over and then sit back losing cs (and die at some point). The one where you sit on low hp for 15 seconds before eating tango, the one where you are at 25% hp and buy a Soul Ring recipe instead of getting a salve. Your taunt spamming and ganking ember were the only things on point in that one. And that is actually a party game so Vandal's argument is void for it.
Let's look at your stomps, shall we? Match ID 4114298155. You are an SF vs a Storm+AM double mid and while they run back and forth trying to steal cs from one another you just run like a headless chicken yourself, WITHIN YOUR ATTACK RANGE OF THEM. And not a single aa to harass. You go boots first, because mobility is so important while you just sit in lane. You use autos for cs and spells to harass exclusively. You rush SB with Wraith Band, Bottle and brown Boots. You get shadow blade and start pointlessly roaming without vision before getiing to lvl 12. When you return to lane, still only autos for lane creeps. You finish aquila after SB. At that point the game is basically won, the enemy lost all the lanes, but you still manage to die couple times and make it to 30 mins. You get a bkb vs clinkz axe am and irrelevant undy+storm supp duo. You end the game with 17-3 yet you played it way worse than the alchemist game.
I and others already pointed multiple games where you lost mid and underperformed and played like utter 1k trashbag that you are. No one is gonna believe these are just isolated cases. Not even you, hopefully. And no, these are not examples of you playing badly - they are representative examples of your play. If you are good at LH - it will be noticeable even if you are zoned out of lane, because anything you are given a chance to get - you get. I saw your games - and you are not good at LH. If you are good at itembuilds - it will be easy to see even if you got no farm - because whatever you got you used perfectly. I saw your games - and you are not good at itembuilds. If you know how to cancel backswing - you will do it all the time no matter if you win or lose. Watch any good player - they do the same things whether they win or lose. It's just that set of things carried them to 7k, and your set of things flushed you down to 1k.
And yes, you sure as shit do not spam vortex on jungle camps. It does proc the passive for 85 mana, but storm actually has two other skills that do it. For just a little more mana. And with an incredibly low cooldown. And with their own AOE damage attached. So every vortex cast is a remnant not cast basically. You do not spam ult for jungling until you get a lot of mana regen as well.
In the meantime I welcome everyone to watch my 1-10 monkey king game if they will get any entertainment out of it. You see, I know I'm shit at DOTA. I played it for a long time an I'm still way below threshold between mediocre and decent. I'm way above the threshold between "Need to justify my loss to opponents" and randomly mashing buttons that you are struggling with, but I'm still shit and I'm working on things one at a time at my own pace instead of whining about the unfair calibration system that does not appreciate my amazing skillset. That is the difference in attitude you might want to embrace.
And @OP, for real, I just utterly and completely debunked the idea of that kunkka being a smurf and you use it as an example again?
Except the one time I lost mid it was to a kunkka who didnt play like a 1k either.
First and foremost what is this "either" doing there? There are no apparent higher MMR ppl in that game. And that kunkka is quite on your level, except he knew he was going mid and bought some stats for starting items.
i added u accpet it when i have my free time id like to see ur skill and coach u bro. i was u 2 yrs ago stuck in 300 mmr and i just made new acc to get hih mmr but i just calibrated the same rn i can boost any acc
There are idiots in every skill bracket, but not pros in every skill bracket. Im an idiot playing with legend players in 3-3.5k. Im supposed to be in normal skill, but climbed up playing a different game mode. (I play mostly unranked). Suddenly when I play all pick, Im matched up with ancients, when Im supposed to be archon. So it is obvious that valve matchmaking have problems. How can I play with high legend and ancients when Im archon? If you know your skill level, there's no need to feel bad about it. Dont blame anyone, the world is naturally unfair. Find a mode of dota that suits you best.
@SayingPleaseHelps I read the wall of text, i was genuinely interested because of your statements, so I loaded up his most recent Spectre game, where he finished with a passable K/D and a win. Also parsed by Dotabuff. Match 4113241899. Saw a bunch of errors, but most glaringly, he required a trilane with Pudge and CM support just to deal with a solo offlane Sniper, and STILL had a sub-optimal amount of last hits, despite being spoon-fed a free lane. That alone tells you he isn’t some 3K stuck in a 1K’s body/account. He deserves to be there. And that was a full party game, 5v5, so despite having the most ideal teammates in terms of coordination and cooperation, and also having “more skilled” teammates by his side than the scummy 1Ks holding his solo MMR back, he still played unremarkably
@SayingPleaseHelps I read the wall of text, i was genuinely interested because of your statements, so I loaded up his most recent Spectre game, where he finished with a passable K/D and a win. Also parsed by Dotabuff. Match 4113241899. Saw a bunch of errors, but most glaringly, he required a trilane with Pudge and CM support just to deal with a solo offlane Sniper, and STILL had a sub-optimal amount of last hits, despite being spoon-fed a free lane. That alone tells you he isn’t some 3K stuck in a 1K’s body/account. He deserves to be there. And that was a full party game, 5v5, so despite having the most ideal teammates in terms of coordination and cooperation, and also having “more skilled” teammates by his side than the scummy 1Ks holding his solo MMR back, he still played unremarkably
dude pls we were playing with 3 noobs at like 3am. I insisted on the pudge going top and the cm stacking and pulling instead of hovering over me and taking my xp but they wouldnt. You really think I would do pub unranked if I was happy with the team? The only player in our stack that was at all decent was the storm and he flopped that game anyway. I had 40cs before 7 minutes, solo killed the sniper multiple times in lane and proceeded to carry that game against a snowballed outworld devourer and a team of people who are 3k according to this site. Stop talking out your fucking ass please.
Solo mmr however has been problematic for me. A couple weeks ago I decided once and for all it was time to grind up my solo mmr so it is more in line with my party mmr. At first I thought this would be simple, 1ks are notoriously poor at this game (so I thought) and I presumed gaining mmr would be as simple as my experience in party ranked - however this wasnt to be. Winning in 1k is far harder than 3k.
Not really, it is very easy, no sweat at all but you won't win every game depending on your hero pick. 1k players are similiar to hard bot that are more aggresive imo.
I tried to coach OP but they claim to not have any voice software on their PC or were not willing to use as it would ruin their concentration whilst playing.
They suggested I write analyses mid game for them which I said no. My coaching offer is meant to be fun for me too, writing essays is not fun.
Anyway, not knocking anyone just letting y’all know how it went down.
dude pls we were playing with 3 noobs at like 3am. I insisted on the pudge going top and the cm stacking and pulling instead of hovering over me and taking my xp but they wouldnt. You really think I would do pub unranked if I was happy with the team? The only player in our stack that was at all decent was the storm and he flopped that game anyway. I had 40cs before 7 minutes, solo killed the sniper multiple times in lane and proceeded to carry that game against a snowballed outworld devourer and a team of people who are 3k according to this site. Stop talking out your fucking ass please.
Is there a different spectre game where you got supped by two ppl? Because the Match ID 4113241899 one is quite hilarious! You got 8 deaths on Spectre of all heroes against no counters after getting your lane redcarpeted by two supports against a non-viable offlaner. You bought quelling at base and went with one set of regen, gambling on them having shit offlane. You wasted your 3 minute CD ult to jump 500 units to sniper. Despite getting mollycoddled by both supps you had only 59/14 LH by 10. Nice non-denying to keep yourself low on exp btw. You decided to rush Radiance against mostly magic DMG team; you fed chasing sniper under tower, despite clearly seeing the countergank on your wards; you missed an obvious tower deny; you farmed your jungle and never pushed lanes, despite being the fattest hero on the map by 20 minutes; you fed there repeatedly because that's the obvious place to gank; you never used manta to farm; you contunued to farm jungle exclusively; you wasted your ult on solo OD who obv just banished you and walked away; you stayed at their base for no reason and fed a streak; you sat on your lead for 10 solid minutes before getting rosh and trying to end the obviously won game; you didn't manta for rosh and almost lost the rosh and lost the aegis instantly; you died to fountain because you failed to switch aggro.
And OD never snowballed that game. Sure he had a killstreak (which is just ez gold for your team), but he never was more than 400 gold ahead on networth. You can brag about carrying this game super hard as much as you like - everyone with working eyes will see it differently. And there is nothing wrong about enjoying these kind of games where you "carried the game" against your fellow noobs, you just need to accept that you belong there and stop whining.
And when I say that they are your fellow noobs I mean it. You claim that they
are 3k according to this site
, which is nothing but a blatant lie. OD is a 2k guy, rest have no MMR recorded, all of them play in normal skill in their solo games, so they are your fellow noobs, carried to the legend badges by the pointless party MMR and team challenge tokens.
I tried to coach OP but they claim to not have any voice software on their PC or were not willing to use as it would ruin their concentration whilst playing
went as well as could have been reasonably expected. Do you think it is believable that a person who plays party DOtA basically every day, and even claims to have played 500 games with their girlfriend has no functional voice comms on their gaming PC or will be unable to use it in regular game situations? Or maybe it's coz they know how wildly off the mark they are and the whole point is to whine and self-aggrandize, not to improve? It is kinda scummy to have people offer their help as if the OP was genuine and then turn it down with such a blatant excuse. It's almost as if OP's attitude was there all along.
OP. If you suck, you suck. Just admit it broo. I was calibrated at 800 a long time ago. losing streak got me down to 500 at one point. its a hard a bracket and it feels like 1v9, but thats how it is for everybody. I remember one time being the highest mmr in a game (900mmr) in a 300avg game. I fucking stomped them all because of course i was more 'skilled' than them. Thats how mmr works. I think I got up to like 1100 on that. Then calibrated higher in the International ranked to like 1400 or so. I stopped playing for about a year now but Im only a few more games away from calibrating again so we'll see what Im at. But at any rate here's some actual tips from an actual pubscrub.
1. just mute every one. always. theyre always mad. just mute them, and dont fuck up.
2. alternatively, be cheerful, communicative, and helpful. tell them "im coming to gank' bla bla bla
3. pickj absolute stompers. of course it depends by game, but there are tons of heroes that can solo win all of the time. one of my favourites was Natures Prophet. just ignore everyone, jungle, and split push constantly. super easy and super annoying. you can always get away with it.t
4. you dont always have to be a carry. Shocker, I know. every team in 1k has 6 cores, does it kill you to play support? honestly? When I said stompers, I didnt mean carries. The other day I played tusk, get communicating with my team, told them who I wanted to kill, and justr kept going at it. they got fed, I got another win. simple.
back to the stompers, there are tons of easy ones. jakiro is probably the most underestimated hero in the game, with regards to how much control he puts out. just dont build him like a retard( I suggest you look at my builds, seeing as I actually win games). roamers and gankers are always a plus. Tusk, Earth Spirit, Bounty, Riki. Tons of options. You dont have to be mechanically skilled either; this is 1k, not TI. Just dont be a retard. Also, I saw you said you werent good at brood earlier? Dude. Come on. If you pick her correctly shes a guaranteed win in 1k. you just have to not be stupid.
Thats really it. I dont know what to say. If youre a bad player, its fine to admit it. You dont have to be mad. Just look at your games, review your mistakes, and try to improve. Thats all.
^
You can add me and I'll help you.
@friendly Erdogan start topic for it u will find some helpful people to coach u
edit. ok u have one :D
Ending workshift in like an hour, will add you then :) Thanks a lot in advance
Allright, I'll try to help best I can
^ you must be a girl lmao
only because you dont know that men also can fullfil all your pleasures my friend :)
it all depends on how good you look in a dress
you are a fast learner !
Got my 4k back. https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4114565840
Had to carry that Jugg. Is that fair? No. But if you want to climb, you have to be better than them, not the same.
I'll probably lose it again but who cares. xd I've been bouncing between 3.9 and 4.1k for too long, lost all hope. I know what I need to do in order to climb, but I'm fucking lazy.
But tbh what can you do. Not anyone is made to be 5k material or above.
request sent! deutsche kartoffel
@friendly
you can just ask,we'll usually answer
can't add you btw can't found your name on search,i'm lazy to log on steam at browser
well i added Feachauri, but i couldnt find the Vertoxity guy :(
ye i think steam broken or something
wat you want to know?
212282282 is the steam-id to your luck... he said he wanted to teach me the game properly :) are you interested in being my coach too? :D i am at 600mmr right now
idk lol, wat does a coach do anyway
if i'm free maybe i'll do
if you got any questions or stuffs i'll answer too
First of all, know how to excuse my English as a translator.
I think the individual MMR issue is complex. I have played 1k games for my girlfriend's account, and they are frustrating, as well as many 2k and 3k games ... but with a really slow pace. Where you do not know what to expect; and that is that the game mentality is more "advanced"
They become little fun, and that frustrates. I age and I get old and criticized, and flamer as anyone and that is the most complicated but it is really annoying that you do not understand certain dynamics of the game.
Never happened? to them that they were medium, they had to pique first because nobody does it, they counterpick with 3 heroes, which includes a blood that will obviously win. And you play with the most positive possible, but controlling that blood is not in your possibilities, and the last pick ogre says "Agggg GG that mid".
I say; Let the cosmic rage begin
Valve says; The game is difficult
lol strange OP stats, very unlikely
I almost think that his account is occasionally borrowed by friends who don't have account to play party
if not, he would have stats like mine https://www.dotabuff.com/players/112119309
I am bad at LH you know, I know this, that's why I choose pos 4 or 5 every game I'm in so I don't have to LH much and more focusing on supporting roles.
I think you don't know what you're doing wrong OP, thus you can't solve non listed problems of yours
This thread 😂
im 3k player, and so easy playing on 1k games using 2nd account. i got 22 win streak on zeus and 10 winstreak using centaur
@Parmaviolets : You are the most f**** stupid delusional piece of shit in the entire internet related to dota 2. Congrats Mr.Dunning Kruger personification.
i kind of skimmed the thread again and doesnt really understand wat is the story
isnt the op already say want to improve,wat is the problem now
OP if even my friend, the one that introduced me to Dota and when """"coached"""" me told me to first pick PA ("because she's op, tell you are smurfing" when they were LITERALLY my first games) without even explaining what last hits were and that I needed them in order to get gold and buy items, the one that sits back sapping xp while jerking off, when he doesn't want to push by autoattacking creeps 1 min in, the one that buys a random circlet, stout shield and 0 tangos and salves as starting items on Omni and those other 2-3 heroes he """""can""""" play after 99 years of Dota, the one that barely knows magic stick exists and thinks it's useless, the one that rushes LINKEN'S ON OMNI JCJTNRLSJGLFJDBVJKBKF AND DOES A SHIT TON OTHER BRAINDEAD THINGS!!1!1!!!11, if this guy managed to get to and maintain 2k solo mmr god knows how, Idk how you can't get out of 1k. I swear to god.
It's prolly a mix of things: you might have trash behavior score, plus smurfs are a problem yes (just had a 91% wr Brood mid who was prolly 6-7k in my 4k game and Ik the struggle is real), you overthink your picks and strategies when in 1k it's absolutely not required, but most importantly you tilt and can't focus. I have the same problem when I play with the guy I talked about earlier, I just see red and wanna shove the pc out the window while my mind goes blank. Us women, what amazing, sweet borderline monsters we are. Never underestimate the impact your mental state has, it's HUGE. And of course you make tons of mistakes like we all do.
Pick a hero that doesn't rely on the team, mute everyone, focus on playing well rather than just winning and that will come as a consequence. You will both win AND learn/improve some mechanics. Just keep calm and gl
So I just watched couple of OP's games (highly recommend Match ID 4105658888, consistent usage of lvl 1 Electric Vortex on jungle camps is exhilarating) and I noticed something interesting. OP does tend to check scoreboard quite a lot and not just for the levels, for profiles of the players who are doing well. No doubt, to confirm their suspicion of those players being the dreaded "smurfs".
Seeing that the "smurfs make 1k unplayable" sentiment is prevalent and actual smurfs do show up in this very thread to mock the poor undercalibrated DOTA prodigies with their presense, I have decided to tackle this topic and dispense with it once and for all. (just like the Elo Hell is being answered conclusively just here).
I posit that while smurfs are more likely to appear on the enemy team (by 5 to 4 ratio) that is not what is stopping you from climbing. In the worst case scenario (an unbalanced smurf every game) this means that you are losing every ninth game to a smurf with his winrate likelyhood (smurf has 70-90% winrate, we'll use the worst case scenario again: 90%). This amounts to 10% of games lost unfairly to smurfs, 10% of lost winrate. However, above 60% winrate is very much achievable in 1k if you yourself are 3-4k, as proven many times by many people including some smurfs in this very thread so you should be able to climb.
Additionally, the base assumption is obviously ridiculous: the amount of smurfs is statistically negligible just based on the fact there are way fewer high skilled players. Losses to smurfs are just more embarassingly memorable due to incredible beatdown you receive with no noticable recourse, so it seems that they are all that happens when the contrary is true. For exampe in the OP's game i highlighted (Match ID 4105658888), the enemy team has a kunkka who goes 16-0-16 and gets profile checked by the OP. He is nowhere near the smurf status. If rushing silver edge (with no huskar on the enemy team) and getting outfarmed by jungle WK were not good enough indicators, I watched him in-game, at most he is a 2k smurf. But OP thought kunkka was a smurf and even mentioned that in this thread.
So let's adjust our model for reality and assume that you have genuine smurfs 1 in 10 games. Still a vast overestimation, but it brings your guaranteed loss rate to a measly 1%. Sure you can deal with that. If you are better then your MMR peers in any significant regard you are bound to have way higher that 51% winrate. Even OP has overall 52,69% WR. So yeah, fuck this "smurfs" narrative, and while we are at it, fuck the smurfs.
If someone is 3k+ player and his solo is ~1k and win 52% he needs 2000 games to raise to 3k mmr!
I suggest doing solo play account and calibrate it to 3k+ with only some 100-150 games
That is never the case though. With "new" MMR resets everyone can recalibrate with huge margins for MMR gain. Ppl reported losing (and sometimes gaining) up to 2000 MMR on latest calibration. That is more than enough to jumpstart yourself out of the gutter. If you have the skill that is. A year and a half ago this could have been a somewhat valid argument for fringe cases that went straight to ranked after joining dota and then switched to normal for whatever reason, but not anymore.
*Looks at own win rate. Sees 51%
*faints
BUT
That's around 72 wins and 113 loses just from my party where I fool around.
not considering the party games just mentioned above, and just solo queues, my win rate would be over 68%.
My point being DotaBuff Win rate is not relevant to anything
Except I doubt this guy has any friends to play with so I doubt hes fooling around with his shit stats and win rate
Speaking of friends, a friend of mine has 0 solo games because He plays with his girlfriend and has near 500 matches. I'm so jealous -_-
#Goals
Aha I have about 500 games with mine as well!
if u lose mid under any circumstances to 1k's when u think ur 3k then ur clearly retarded lmao
Maybe That's why you do better in parties. You actually care to play well and carry yo girl -_-
I on the other hand usually text and eat while playing in parties
What is your bussines with "haj saeed toosi " :D:D:D:D:DD:D:D:D
@Fery We do special things together xd
damn he played like 2k and stomped u then? how terrible
I highly recommend match ID 4105658888 because it's the perfect storm of garbage plays. It's not just underperformance. It's spectacular failures in every aspect of the game. Mad entertainment value. You gave up on the idea of improvement so you can't really blame me for extracting as much fun as I can from this shitstorm of delusion of a thread.
Do you want me to name other matches? Coz I watched 5 of them and the way you run back and forth waiting for creep to go down to LH range while your melee opponents do the same inside your attack range is in every single one outside that alchemist one.
You know the one. This one: Match ID 4111679232 (which I also recommend). The one where you as an Alchemist get Soul Ring at 3 mins and use it twice before 10 mins, the one where you get Armlet at 11 mins and use it at 17:24 for the first time, 20:30 second use, the one where you finish Manta at 32:25 (for whatever reason), and first use it at 38:00, the one where your item progression goes as folllows: Soul Ring -> Armlet -> Maelstrom -> Aghs for Tusk -> finishing Mjollnir -> Shadow blade -> Silver Edge -> Manta -> Basher -> Abyssal -> Heart(after 400 hp talent). The one where you just tank the Ember shield over and over and then sit back losing cs (and die at some point). The one where you sit on low hp for 15 seconds before eating tango, the one where you are at 25% hp and buy a Soul Ring recipe instead of getting a salve. Your taunt spamming and ganking ember were the only things on point in that one. And that is actually a party game so Vandal's argument is void for it.
Let's look at your stomps, shall we? Match ID 4114298155. You are an SF vs a Storm+AM double mid and while they run back and forth trying to steal cs from one another you just run like a headless chicken yourself, WITHIN YOUR ATTACK RANGE OF THEM. And not a single aa to harass. You go boots first, because mobility is so important while you just sit in lane. You use autos for cs and spells to harass exclusively. You rush SB with Wraith Band, Bottle and brown Boots. You get shadow blade and start pointlessly roaming without vision before getiing to lvl 12. When you return to lane, still only autos for lane creeps. You finish aquila after SB. At that point the game is basically won, the enemy lost all the lanes, but you still manage to die couple times and make it to 30 mins. You get a bkb vs clinkz axe am and irrelevant undy+storm supp duo. You end the game with 17-3 yet you played it way worse than the alchemist game.
I and others already pointed multiple games where you lost mid and underperformed and played like utter 1k trashbag that you are. No one is gonna believe these are just isolated cases. Not even you, hopefully. And no, these are not examples of you playing badly - they are representative examples of your play. If you are good at LH - it will be noticeable even if you are zoned out of lane, because anything you are given a chance to get - you get. I saw your games - and you are not good at LH. If you are good at itembuilds - it will be easy to see even if you got no farm - because whatever you got you used perfectly. I saw your games - and you are not good at itembuilds. If you know how to cancel backswing - you will do it all the time no matter if you win or lose. Watch any good player - they do the same things whether they win or lose. It's just that set of things carried them to 7k, and your set of things flushed you down to 1k.
And yes, you sure as shit do not spam vortex on jungle camps. It does proc the passive for 85 mana, but storm actually has two other skills that do it. For just a little more mana. And with an incredibly low cooldown. And with their own AOE damage attached. So every vortex cast is a remnant not cast basically. You do not spam ult for jungling until you get a lot of mana regen as well.
In the meantime I welcome everyone to watch my 1-10 monkey king game if they will get any entertainment out of it. You see, I know I'm shit at DOTA. I played it for a long time an I'm still way below threshold between mediocre and decent. I'm way above the threshold between "Need to justify my loss to opponents" and randomly mashing buttons that you are struggling with, but I'm still shit and I'm working on things one at a time at my own pace instead of whining about the unfair calibration system that does not appreciate my amazing skillset. That is the difference in attitude you might want to embrace.
you die way too much on cores
have you tried playing support? maybe it'd be better suited to your playstyle
And @OP, for real, I just utterly and completely debunked the idea of that kunkka being a smurf and you use it as an example again?
First and foremost what is this "either" doing there? There are no apparent higher MMR ppl in that game. And that kunkka is quite on your level, except he knew he was going mid and bought some stats for starting items.
i added u accpet it when i have my free time id like to see ur skill and coach u bro. i was u 2 yrs ago stuck in 300 mmr and i just made new acc to get hih mmr but i just calibrated the same rn i can boost any acc
There are idiots in every skill bracket, but not pros in every skill bracket. Im an idiot playing with legend players in 3-3.5k. Im supposed to be in normal skill, but climbed up playing a different game mode. (I play mostly unranked). Suddenly when I play all pick, Im matched up with ancients, when Im supposed to be archon. So it is obvious that valve matchmaking have problems. How can I play with high legend and ancients when Im archon? If you know your skill level, there's no need to feel bad about it. Dont blame anyone, the world is naturally unfair. Find a mode of dota that suits you best.
@SayingPleaseHelps I read the wall of text, i was genuinely interested because of your statements, so I loaded up his most recent Spectre game, where he finished with a passable K/D and a win. Also parsed by Dotabuff. Match 4113241899. Saw a bunch of errors, but most glaringly, he required a trilane with Pudge and CM support just to deal with a solo offlane Sniper, and STILL had a sub-optimal amount of last hits, despite being spoon-fed a free lane. That alone tells you he isn’t some 3K stuck in a 1K’s body/account. He deserves to be there. And that was a full party game, 5v5, so despite having the most ideal teammates in terms of coordination and cooperation, and also having “more skilled” teammates by his side than the scummy 1Ks holding his solo MMR back, he still played unremarkably
Not really, it is very easy, no sweat at all but you won't win every game depending on your hero pick. 1k players are similiar to hard bot that are more aggresive imo.
excuse after excuse after excuse, worst human scum of this planet you make me fucking barf u waste of oxygen
I tried to coach OP but they claim to not have any voice software on their PC or were not willing to use as it would ruin their concentration whilst playing.
They suggested I write analyses mid game for them which I said no. My coaching offer is meant to be fun for me too, writing essays is not fun.
Anyway, not knocking anyone just letting y’all know how it went down.
excuse after excuse after excuse, worst human scum of this planet you make me fucking barf u waste of oxygen. -> Exactly .
OMFZG this guy , someone give him a pacifier so that he stops crying already.
Is there a different spectre game where you got supped by two ppl? Because the Match ID 4113241899 one is quite hilarious! You got 8 deaths on Spectre of all heroes against no counters after getting your lane redcarpeted by two supports against a non-viable offlaner. You bought quelling at base and went with one set of regen, gambling on them having shit offlane. You wasted your 3 minute CD ult to jump 500 units to sniper. Despite getting mollycoddled by both supps you had only 59/14 LH by 10. Nice non-denying to keep yourself low on exp btw. You decided to rush Radiance against mostly magic DMG team; you fed chasing sniper under tower, despite clearly seeing the countergank on your wards; you missed an obvious tower deny; you farmed your jungle and never pushed lanes, despite being the fattest hero on the map by 20 minutes; you fed there repeatedly because that's the obvious place to gank; you never used manta to farm; you contunued to farm jungle exclusively; you wasted your ult on solo OD who obv just banished you and walked away; you stayed at their base for no reason and fed a streak; you sat on your lead for 10 solid minutes before getting rosh and trying to end the obviously won game; you didn't manta for rosh and almost lost the rosh and lost the aegis instantly; you died to fountain because you failed to switch aggro.
And OD never snowballed that game. Sure he had a killstreak (which is just ez gold for your team), but he never was more than 400 gold ahead on networth. You can brag about carrying this game super hard as much as you like - everyone with working eyes will see it differently. And there is nothing wrong about enjoying these kind of games where you "carried the game" against your fellow noobs, you just need to accept that you belong there and stop whining.
And when I say that they are your fellow noobs I mean it. You claim that they
, which is nothing but a blatant lie. OD is a 2k guy, rest have no MMR recorded, all of them play in normal skill in their solo games, so they are your fellow noobs, carried to the legend badges by the pointless party MMR and team challenge tokens.@.eXceL Well this thing
went as well as could have been reasonably expected. Do you think it is believable that a person who plays party DOtA basically every day, and even claims to have played 500 games with their girlfriend has no functional voice comms on their gaming PC or will be unable to use it in regular game situations? Or maybe it's coz they know how wildly off the mark they are and the whole point is to whine and self-aggrandize, not to improve? It is kinda scummy to have people offer their help as if the OP was genuine and then turn it down with such a blatant excuse. It's almost as if OP's attitude was there all along.Nice "not knocking" btw.
OP. If you suck, you suck. Just admit it broo. I was calibrated at 800 a long time ago. losing streak got me down to 500 at one point. its a hard a bracket and it feels like 1v9, but thats how it is for everybody. I remember one time being the highest mmr in a game (900mmr) in a 300avg game. I fucking stomped them all because of course i was more 'skilled' than them. Thats how mmr works. I think I got up to like 1100 on that. Then calibrated higher in the International ranked to like 1400 or so. I stopped playing for about a year now but Im only a few more games away from calibrating again so we'll see what Im at. But at any rate here's some actual tips from an actual pubscrub.
1. just mute every one. always. theyre always mad. just mute them, and dont fuck up.
2. alternatively, be cheerful, communicative, and helpful. tell them "im coming to gank' bla bla bla
3. pickj absolute stompers. of course it depends by game, but there are tons of heroes that can solo win all of the time. one of my favourites was Natures Prophet. just ignore everyone, jungle, and split push constantly. super easy and super annoying. you can always get away with it.t
4. you dont always have to be a carry. Shocker, I know. every team in 1k has 6 cores, does it kill you to play support? honestly? When I said stompers, I didnt mean carries. The other day I played tusk, get communicating with my team, told them who I wanted to kill, and justr kept going at it. they got fed, I got another win. simple.
back to the stompers, there are tons of easy ones. jakiro is probably the most underestimated hero in the game, with regards to how much control he puts out. just dont build him like a retard( I suggest you look at my builds, seeing as I actually win games). roamers and gankers are always a plus. Tusk, Earth Spirit, Bounty, Riki. Tons of options. You dont have to be mechanically skilled either; this is 1k, not TI. Just dont be a retard. Also, I saw you said you werent good at brood earlier? Dude. Come on. If you pick her correctly shes a guaranteed win in 1k. you just have to not be stupid.
Thats really it. I dont know what to say. If youre a bad player, its fine to admit it. You dont have to be mad. Just look at your games, review your mistakes, and try to improve. Thats all.